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I seriously did not mean to get this thread off the topic of exhausts. Scott, I do live sound work and own a sound company that has been providing sound for concerts and festivals for over 36 years.
Back to exhausts, if you have a way of measuring different exhausts under the same conditions (exact same distance to mic, same environment, etc.), the dB SPL readings would give a reference as to which are louder.
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 I had the baffles out fo my SS cannons today...took it around the block...  Rolled into my complex and shut it down to coast into my garage so as not to shake my neighbors windows out of the frames. I think I heard small children crying and I swear I saw people ducking out of the way. HOLYSHITONACRACKERBATMAN 
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I had the baffles out fo my SS cannons today...took it around the block...
Rolled into my complex and shut it down to coast into my garage so as not to shake my neighbors windows out of the frames.
I think I heard small children crying and I swear I saw people ducking out of the way.
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I rode with no baffles in my Scepters for a couple weeks, man that was just too loud
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Before I replaced the baffle wrap on my SS pipes, I rode around the block without the baffles at all. WAY too loud for me. I like it best with brand new wrap on them. Takes out any raspiness and keeps the low end throaty sound that is the forte of the Specialty Spares. Plus, I think they perform better the way they were designed - probably increases a slight back pressure.
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Just wanted to say, this is a great discussion! I have always wondered how loud my pipes were in comparison to any others out there, and this thread is one stop shopping for this topic - thanks to all! I have the long TOR's and like them alot - I like the rumble at idle, and the growl at acceleration. When I had my bike in for service, I got to hear the mechanic test ride it, and they sounded nice to me. But I can tell that there are alot of favorites here!
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 I bought the short TORs for mine but they just didn't sound right... So I opened them up... ... mean sound, awesome overrun, 6" blue flames occasionally in the dark... Tested the volume with th db meter at work (130db)... at idle they're to loud to register... Hence my need for earpugs and I have had complaints about heartstopping from behind on the motorway (freeway) at 80, (oops 70mph)...
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Didn't see it...did anyone ever give a comparison of SS short slashes vs. Epco's? Thinking of switching out my SS's for something different.
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Didn't see it...did anyone ever give a comparison of SS short slashes vs. Epco's? Thinking of switching out my SS's for something different.
I think they are pretty even for loud, the tone is a bit different, the SS may be just a touch lower.
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Thanks Dave. Kinda got that from searching the archives too.
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I like the Epco's, you can't go wrong with stainless steel. But I love my Scepter's, I think they sound absolutely fantastic, and they look nice and beefy because they are a lot bigger than Epco's, more like the size of the Spares.
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If you want to measure db's so we can get some more concise readings, next time you guys have a rally somone with the latest iPhone could buy one of the utility applications. I have it installed on mine and it gives average as well as highest db Reading in a bar type format. Just find out the distance and rpm design rules use and compare. Easiest and cheapest way I can think of to take out the subjective opinion that keeps going round in circles. Particularly with the home made baffelectomy's. Would be interesting and good fun too.
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just ask anyone who went on the arkansas 09 rally how loud my bike is. i was on my way to work one morning and i had a guy flip me off repeatedly cause he couldnt hear his cell phone call at 70mph i just smiled and waved as i dropped it to 3rd gear hahaha
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The only thing I've heard louder than my JCW shorties, was during the one 10mi ride I took with no mufflers, just straight pipes.
I went through a tunnel at WFO and the sound hurt my chest.
Same Here...I love the sound of my JCW SHORTYS....
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not shur what my pipes are bought them from a friend for $20
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... i was on my way to work one morning and i had a guy flip me off repeatedly cause he couldnt hear his cell phone call at 70mph i just smiled and waved as i dropped it to 3rd gear hahaha
I wonder how many cage seats have pittle stains from the roar of D&Ds splitting lanes?  at speed is really the cats meow for liberal pittle flow 
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i just fitted stainless steel epco exhausts on my 2009 america , love the sound , will have to get it remapped as popping and backfiring when decelerating 
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Yaaaa. I have epco pipes and love them too. You just can't miss going with stainless steel. I wish they were a little deeper and louder but they are great in my opinion. They are neighborhood friendly yet still meaty.
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i'll see how neighbour friendly they are at 3 in the morning going to work 
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Aahhh...you'll probably wake a soul or two up for sure. I love it.  
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i just fitted stainless steel epco exhausts on my 2009 america , love the sound , will have to get it remapped as popping and backfiring when decelerating
I wonder what a guy can do on a EFI bike to eliminate that decel pop-did-de-pop-pop. Most of us with carbs and who also disconnected the TPS no longer experience the gearing down 'pop' syndrome.
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had it remapped , dealer didn't have correct software for the epcos , but after he had finished nearly all popping is gone , still pops near end of deceleration but that gives it a bit of attitude
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Go by the newly proposed exhaust pipe loudness test standard - SAE J2825. Go to www.youtube.com/americanmotorcyclist to see the test procedure. It thus defines a standard instrument, distance, throttle behavior, etc.. to compare. May become basis for various laws on motorcycle exhaust around the country...
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Resurecting an old thread! What is the difference in sound between the three versions of TORS ie Long, Short, Tapered? I had some Bubs on order, but after waiting a month and still no ETA, I cancelled the order and placed an order for some tapered TORS. I previously had the Long Slash Cut TORS. I like the look of the shorter tapereds, but am hoping that they are a little louder. Thanks for any input.
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If you want loud go with the Spec Spares or Spectres. Both are great pipes. I have spectres and can tell ya they are pretty loud.
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I like Scott's set up. Might have to copy that
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I love the look of EPCO’s. I’ve got an 06 America 790 with de baffled standard pipes but need to change them as I live in Victoria the nanny state of Australia, and there is a huge crack down on loud bikes. How loud are the EPCO’s, I reckon on a scale of 1-10 with a loud Harley being 10 my pipes are about 8 ½. Don’t want to go to quiet and want to keep the deep note I’ve got, (Know someone with Staintunes and they’re too quiet and not deep enough). Would really appreciate you’re feedback.
Or should I be looking at something else, D&D’S, Sceptre’s etc. Thanks
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I was looking at getting this kit... what do you think?
http://www.british-customs.com/british-customs-triumph-america-speedmaster-performance-package.html
I think you can save a lot of money by looking around and doing some price checking. You can find what you need to eliminate the airbox on ebay sometimes, or even in the classifieds here. Pipes are going to be a personal preference, you need to listen to sound clips and peoples advise, but the best way to judge is hearing them in person. The AI removal kit shouldn't cost more than 50¢ in my opinion, but if you want the pretty bolts with the Union Jack in them, you can get them from newspeedmaster.com and fasteddysports.com. Of course, they will be more than 50¢. 900 bucks seems like a lot for air filters and pipes...
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Good advice, I'll be sure to shop around. What about the BC exaust and the ranking on the loudness?
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I have 2003 speedmaster, i live by the creed loud pipes save lives, i have straight through shotgun pipes with no baffles, they are pretty loud in fact ive never had another bike come close, some people do find this obnoxiuos and i can understand that but the reality is that people drive around in tin cans with duff duff music playing and they dont hear you and so dont see you, i think this is a personel decison but i love the rumble of mike speedmaster it sets off car alarms when i ride down city streets, trust me the police really dont care, even my neighbours dont care they think it sounds sweet although i am cuatiuos not to anooy anybody. i cant hear my friends motorcycles i think it so dangerous not to be heard. Ride Well, Live Longer !!!
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I've spent a ton of time searching, reading and watching videos on you tube. I cannot find a definative ranking of pipes from quietest to loudest.
This is my best educated guess (quiet to loud). Can anyone comment?
Stock (sewing machine)
TORS (long)
TORS (short)
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Sceptre (baffle)
Sceptre (no baffle)
Has anyone had their bike side by side with a Harley with aftermarket exhaust? A few friends (lemmings) have XL1200C's with screaming eagle pipes. I don't want to be any louder than those...
Thanks!
Matthew
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where would you say these fall on the list?
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Why aren't the EPCO pipes listed?
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 These are probably the loudest thing next to straight pipes. I have the 19" ones. I love them, they sound awesome. ~Brent
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I'm going to order the 19" turnouts from JC Whitney for my 05. Did you rejet or anything? Beyond the obvious sound improvement did you notice any other difference? Do these pipes have baffles? Packing? Any feedback appreciated.
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I bought an 07 Speedmaster new and was very dissappointed in the sound of the mufflers. I ordered a set of long TORS and although better they still were too quiet. I drilled out a bunch of holes in the last baffle and now I have the sound I want. A nice rumble at idle and a mellow sound at speed. With a WOT they really sound off and I love it. I may drill some more holes anyway.
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I now have the 19" turnouts on my 05. They are loud. Really thumps at idle. Love it.
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I now have the 19" turnouts on my 05. They are loud. Really thumps at idle. Love it.
Pic, video, sound bite???
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Go on Youtube and search "Triumph Speedmaster turnout pipes". There are two videos from the same guy that give you a pretty good idea of the sound and look of the 19" pipes.
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