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I really like the sound of the SS and Bubs. However, I prefer the SS sound.
Lonzo, after installing the SS, I wear earplugs for the same reason as you. If I don't, my ears ring like crazy.
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I have had the SS for two years now. I loved them the first day I put them on and still love them. They are not loud, they have what I would call a warmer, less snappy or harsh sound than the TORS. I have the long slash cuts. I think they get better with time. Re-Jet the bike, dial up the idle screw (ALOT), and set the idle real real low. Sounds just incredible. Trust me, get that idle set LOW. For comparison, the SS are considerably quiter than the average Harley.
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I love my long TORs. My riding buddy and myself think they sound like a Huey 'coper when we're puts-ing around town. Is there any other pipe that sounds that way? Maybe louder?
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I have had D&D pipes on my 2002 BA from the day it rolled out the Triumph Dealer. They are loud and will set off car alarms and cause hearing loss after a long ride down the highway at 75 to 80 mph. At idle, they sound fantastic. When accelerating, they sound outstanding. I like them and on long trips I will wear ear plugs to combat the resulting hearing loss. My wife's 2001 Custom Bonnie also has D&D's and she loves them. If I didn't know any better, I would believe they were straight pipes! My fellow riders rather I ride in the rear. Co-workers say they can't hear their stereos in the truck/car when behind me on the way to work. They look good too. Hope this helps.
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It sounds like you just described my Scepters!
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I'm just having fun with the short straight-through TORS. They echo off the rock face as I pull hard through an uphill snake and they settle down on stretches of nothingness to allow me to enter nirvana-like consciousness. And they get better as the miles go by. But then again I'm riding... pure and simple and pipes just may have little to do with the level of consciousness I achieve. Can anyone say, samadhi?
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Can anyone say, samadhi?
Can't say it and I don't think anyone here knows how to play one either.
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The loudest pipes I have ever heard were the extra long epco drag pipes on Casey's bike (Clinton MD gang) and the others were the little shorty turn out pipes (basically a ten inch extension of the header pipes) that one of the members here in Northern Virginia has on his speedy.
I asked Casey about those -- they are (were) straight through without a single baffle... and yes, they are, hands down, the loudest ****** pipes I've ever heard on any of the Bonnie variants. Riding behind him is painful.
Still assessing the steel-packed Emgos on my 03 Speedy -- bike's in the shop right now, so little "testing" going on. They're loud -- perhaps a little too loud -- but certainly nothign compared to Casey's bike.
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Speaking of Stainless, I don't see the Staintune pipes being mentioned here. But of course they are not in the obnoxiously loud category which suits me anyway. Mind you, that's with me keeping the restrictor in.
Taking it out and the decibel lever goes from 94 (tors are 91db) to 99 db' which may suit a few of you guys. Particularly as the staintunes have their own pure sound that give them their own fan club.
Don't trust me? When you hear them, you'll know what I'm talking about 
I run staintunes without the baffle. They sound nice, good tone if I get on it, and I can back off the throttle to pretty darn quiet. Granted I can't hear my bike when I ride with the HD guys. But since I ride around to visit clients its a good compromise.
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Can't say it and I don't think anyone here knows how to play one either.
Got a good chortle outta that one! 
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I put cocktail shakers on mine, and removed baffles. My Harley has a set of shorty's, with no baffles. I can stand between them and the Triumph is the loudest.
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mine is pretty loud.... the people from the midwest rally will tell you!!! and it sounds much much different than any other set of pipes...plus i have a really loud cackle that just roars when i let off the throttle about 4 grand.. 
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Hey scott, with those turndowns, where does all that gravel and cement chunks in that picture go when you start the bike?  My friend, Holly, has nice turndowns on her HD and when she starts it you don't want to be near any dirt/gravel/etc. Whooo what a cloud they throw up.
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yes they do throw up dust.... but i sure love the sound and the cackle
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Those pipes are loud alright! I can hear him riding behind my bike and I run Scepters.
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Scepters vs D&Ds
Both loud. But the D&D's absolutely BARK! Hands down the D&D's are louder than the Sceptres.
Cinnamon Girl -> D&D's
Vera Lynn -> Sceptres
Lynn and I traveled home from Lake Gaston VA several weeks ago. I on Cinnamon Girl and she behind the wheel of her Highlander. We started out with her behind me. Ended up with her in front of me. I asked her why she was always a mile or so behind me and she said that my pipes were so loud that she could not hear the radio! It hurt her to drive behind me. Hum. I bet folks shat their pants when I whiteline at speed.  
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Anyone ever do a side by side comparison of EPCO versus Specialty Spares?
Which is louder (baffles in)?
Which is deeper?
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hello,
Do we know how much db those pipes sound ?
(pipes with baffles / direct from vendor)
I mean for example :
Stock are 86 db @ 1000 RPM ????
TORS (long) are 90 db @1000 RPM
etc...
Maybe ranking pipes with that kind of data would better help those (like me) who haven't really listen real sound.
As we know that each 3 db , volume is up twice (x2) . (I don't know how to say that)
That way, we'll get a best idea how much noise we need !?
Because, anyone here says mine is louder... etc..., but something loud enough for me should be not enough loud for another .
Maybe someone has already measured that ?
In this case, updating first post with those data would be apreciated.
Thank's
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There would have to be a standard of measurement for any data to be useful which there is not. Distance, environment, and placement of microphone all would have a dramatic affect on SPL (loudness) figures. You would also have to specify what scale it is to me measured in (A weighting, C, or flat) besides a constant engine rpm.
BTW, a 3 dB SPL increase is NOT twice the volume. This is a common misunderstanding of decibel measurements. It takes twice the power (watts) to increase the dB SPL 3 dB (speaker measurement) which is not twice as loud.
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Thierry,
This is a great thread and from what I can tell the rankings on the first post are spot on.
I would opted for short TORS for a number of reasons ie they are the right sound for me, it was easy (dealer remapped and fitted), neighbours not upset, cops never bothered me, liked the popping and occasional backfire, still turned heads (good safety feature), no warranty issues and they look good. Now if I lived in La Rochelle it would be short TORS no question. The sound will be bouncing off the walls - fantastic!
Either way you will notice a massive difference with out the stocks - the bike becomes how it was Ment to be!
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@RamSound : You're right. Thas 's what I mean : same bike, same microphon, same RPM, in the same room, etc...
@BlueNose : My vendor proposed to me the long TORS. He said that would make same look as Stocks and cops would be more cool with that (as they visually cannot suppose they aren't stocks). Is there a big difference between long and short TORS (about sound) ?
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hello,
Do we know how much db those pipes sound ?
(pipes with baffles / direct from vendor)
I mean for example :
Stock are 86 db @ 1000 RPM ????
TORS (long) are 90 db @1000 RPM
etc...
Maybe ranking pipes with that kind of data would better help those (like me) who haven't really listen real sound.
As we know that each 3 db , volume is up twice (x2) . (I don't know how to say that)
That way, we'll get a best idea how much noise we need !?
Because, anyone here says mine is louder... etc..., but something loud enough for me should be not enough loud for another .
Maybe someone has already measured that ?
In this case, updating first post with those data would be apreciated.
Thank's
Well, my Specialty Spares long cannons are 110db at 3500 rpm, I know this cause they failed Delaware noise standards. However they have 12k miles on them and need re-wrapping, once I get the re-wrap done and inspected again I will post the new levels.
Cheers
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@Wendell : Thank's 
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@BlueNose : My vendor proposed to me the long TORS. He said that would make same look as Stocks and cops would be more cool with that (as they visually cannot suppose they aren't stocks). Is there a big difference between long and short TORS (about sound) ?
Short TORS are slightly louder/better and look better in my opinion. I have travelled about 5,000km in France on my tba and the only comment I have had from the boys in bleu is "nice ride". Never been worried - the interest in France in our bikes is second only to Belgium (be prepared for some attention of the right sort).
By the way we have similar tastes...
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Look nice ! I'll get these short TORS asap, I hope this month if business goes on. Another question : with Short TORS do I have something to do with airbox to make it breath better ? (My vendor will adjust cartography /EFI)
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I left my air intake and A1 as standard although I understand the addition of K&N filters does make a difference to performance (I kept as stock so no risk to warranty). As for A1 I like popping and the odd backfire so left well alone. Use your regulator to change sound also - lower gives you more snack crackle and pop! But careful not too low as it dies on you as I found out in the centre of Dijon next to some HD boys. Not my finest moment!  Btw if you take off the A1 you need to bypass the O2 sensors on EFI (I think).
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Don't worry, I'll not do it myself. My vendor will do it, he's better mechanics as I am. Anyway, I prefer pay and have a nice service. I do not want my bike to be destroyed or warrenty go out. Thank's.
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Do somebody have left/right side pics with short TORS ?
Thanks.
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Do somebody have left/right side pics with short TORS ?
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@ ramsound: actually 3 db up is twice as loud..... say from 120 to 123.....123 is twice as loud as 120. However from the human hearing prespective 10 db is the precieved twice as loud.
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Thank You all ! @BlueNose : Is your front light bar the Triumph one or Rivco ? An what about your leather bags ? Thank's
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Scott, that is absolutely incorrect. As I said before, it takes twice the power to increase the sound pressure level 3 dB. 3 dB does not represent on any scale "twice as loud". This misconception arises from terminology confusion. In voltage measurements, twice the voltage would result in a 6 dB increase. I assume, though, you are referring to acoustical SPL measurements, and when you refer to "loudness" you are referring to sound pressure level (SPL). Regardless, the decibel is always a power ratio. It is not a unit of measurement like an inch, watt, liter, or a gram. It is a logarithm of a non-dimensional ratio of two power-like quantities.
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Thank You all !
@BlueNose : Is your front light bar the Triumph one or Rivco ? An what about your leather bags ?
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Both paniers and light bar triumph. Paniers keep dry even in heavy rain - amazingly. If you get light bar up rate fuse to from 5 amp to 10 amp - caused me a few issues.
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as far as sound pressure levels they are measured in dB's 120dB to 123dB is a twice the presure as measured in dB's
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Very useful for me. Thank's BlueNose
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Okay,
I've just seen I can reply to the post of my choice.... Sorry , I'm not familar with UBB.
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as far as sound pressure levels they are measured in dB's 120dB to 123dB is a twice the presure as measured in dB's
Another incorrect statement. Again, it takes twice the power (watts) to increase the pressure (SPL) 3dB. It is twice the power not twice the SPL. You're making a mistake arguing with a sound engineer.
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Scott, that is absolutely incorrect. As I said before, it takes twice the power to increase the sound pressure level 3 dB. 3 dB does not represent on any scale "twice as loud". This misconception arises from terminology confusion. In voltage measurements, twice the voltage would result in a 6 dB increase. I assume, though, you are referring to acoustical SPL measurements, and when you refer to "loudness" you are referring to sound pressure level (SPL). Regardless, the decibel is always a power ratio. It is not a unit of measurement like an inch, watt, liter, or a gram. It is a logarithm of a non-dimensional ratio of two power-like quantities.
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as far as sound pressure levels they are measured in dB's 120dB to 123dB is a twice the presure as measured in dB's
Another incorrect statement. Again, it takes twice the power (watts) to increase the pressure (SPL) 3dB. It is twice the power not twice the SPL. You're making a mistake arguing with a sound engineer.
I do not believe that I am making a mistake because learning to me is not a mistake. However your credentials top mine. I was a semi-pro carstereo competitor in the spl lanes...every thing I have learned about SPL has been very amature gathering information from many different sources...Doesn't suprise me that I have been misinformed. The only thing i have had any training on is electronics. Just out of curiosity what kind of work do you do? When i was sponsered the owner of the company that sponsered me was an acoustical engineer....He worked on underwater sound for the military
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