They also don't realize that Harley was saved from exstinction about two decades ago as well. you can argue whether AMF saved them or drove them to the brink of oblivian. Honda nearly killed them, oh, and ahhh bad engineering.

I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago. Edgar Allan Poe