I really never have a problem with the harley guys who are real bikers, its the wannabes that try to be stupid. The old school guys know about triumph and actually like my bike quite a bit. The guys I ride with around here are Harley riders as none of the triumph riders do any thing but hang out at a bar downtown. I did that once not to be repeated that was a disapointment for real I posted abut it. RAT is not organized here as they have no leader so its nofun. I usually ride withthe leagionairs they are a cool and benevolent group of guys, who invite me to their rides and events.