Thank you all for your thoughts. iknowjohnny you may be onto something. At 3/4 I am on the verge. This only happens when I run up to near full rpm. There are times I'll shift in 1st at 3/4 then hit second to near full and it'll quit. You know though I need to get through to full RPM when schooling these Harley's. I'll go back to 160s since I have them to start and go from there. Thanks again all.