All I can say is the stock suspension of my 95 FXDS is superior to any other bike I've ridden and it's Evo engine has monster torque. The mechanicals are definitely not as smooth as the America so it doesn't lend itself to long days in the saddle but there's a spot in there around 2800 RPM where it's buttery smooth and strong and I know why it inspires loyalty. Doesn't make me not want to ride the America, I just see them having different roles in my riding life.