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#289634 08/28/2008 10:08 AM
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Okay, I do NOT intend to make this sound political; it's entirely about oratorial talent.

Regardless of what you think about his politics or personal weaknesses, Bill Clinton remains one of the most talented speakers of our lifetime. The speech he gave at the Demo convention last night was a masterpiece of oratory and rhetoric comparable to JFK's and Reagan's best efforts. The phrase "Better for us to use the power of our example than the example of our power" has to be one of the most memorable lines I've heard any politician use in recent memory. The guy has an amazing charisma when speaking publicly.


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The phrase "Better for us to use the power of our example than the example of our power" has to be one of the most memorable lines I've heard any politician use in recent memory.




I wonder who wrote it for him.


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JCBullen #289636 08/28/2008 10:12 AM
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I agree. I was getting a little tired of hearing from Bill and Hillary in recent weeks, but he did give an excellent speech last night.

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+1, heck of a good line, and a very good speech. On the other hand, and without rancor, more like resignation, I'm old enough to remember, and really tire of hearing all of the same old things from politicians, in general. My favorite, in a local campaign from this area, is..." Joe Blow is going to go to Washington and bring about change in how things work there".
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The speech he gave at the Demo convention last night was a masterpiece of oratory




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arstaren #289640 08/28/2008 11:31 AM
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I dont get down on much speeches but isnt that structured pretty similar to the JFK speech?

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Or is this a normal formula for speeches in politics?

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The phrase "Better for us to use the power of our example




WHAATT ? Uhhh , have we forgotten some things here ? Reference being personal or collective , interesting coming from him .


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Remember, he did not have sexual relations with Monica. Example?


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I dont get down on much speeches but isnt that structured pretty similar to the JFK speech?

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Or is this a normal formula for speeches in politics?




Yep, Tom! That's pretty much the standard formula ALL the Politicos are usin' nowdays on BOTH sides of the ol' aisle.

In fact, anyone can purchase that formula today at their local Barnes and Noble. Just go to the Self Help Section there and look for the book, "Speeches FOR Dummies"!!!

(...and now every time you watch one of those mind-numbingly assinine political ads on TV, with which you're sure to soon be bombarded, you'll now know where they got all their ideas!!!)


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CREATIVE WRITING AT ITS BEST!

Judy, a professional genealogical researcher, discovered that Hillary
Clinton's great-great uncle, Remus Rodham, a fellow lacking in character,
was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889.

The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows. On the
back of the picture is this inscription: 'Remus Rodham; horse thief, sent to
Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six
times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.'

Judy e-mailed Hillary Clinton for comments. Hillary's staff of professional
image adjusters cropped Remus's picture, scanned it, enlarged the image, and
edited it with image processing software so all that's seen is a head shot.

The accompanying biographical sketch is as follows: 'Remus Rodham was a
famous cowboy in the Montana Territory . His business empire grew to include
acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the
Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to
service at a government facility, finally taking leave to resume his
dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital
investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus
passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the
platform upon which he was standing collapsed.'


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I dont get down on much speeches but isnt that structured pretty similar to the JFK speech?

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Or is this a normal formula for speeches in politics?




Yep, Tom! That's pretty much the standard formula ALL the Politicos are usin' nowdays on BOTH sides of the ol' aisle.

In fact, anyone can purchase that formula today at their local Barnes and Noble. Just go to the Self Help Section there and look for the book, "Speeches FOR Dummies"!!!

(...and now every time you watch one of those mind-numbingly assinine political ads on TV, with which you're sure to soon be bombarded, you'll now know where they got all their ideas!!!)




Not me Dwight bright, I dont got no cables, and I aint got no attennas neither..he huck

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Personally I am a way bigger fan of Peggy Noonan (Ronald Reagan's speechwriter). The "Boys of Pointe du Hoc" speech, given at Normandy for the 40th anniversary of D-Day was brilliant.

RR was probably the last time I was really impressed with a presidential speech...it's all gone to sound bites now.
And my favorite line will always be the one about the most terrifying thing you can hear is "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" (RR)
Consider how our politicians speeches have declined in quality over the years...I'm betting most of you can remember at least the first sentence of FDR's radio address on 7 Dec 1941, but who can remember even one line from GWB's speech on 11 Sep 2001?


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"Better for us to use the power of our example than the example of our power"




I prefer "Peace through supperior firepower". or however it goes.


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Personally I am a way bigger fan of Peggy Noonan (Ronald Reagan's speechwriter). The "Boys of Pointe du Hoc" speech, given at Normandy for the 40th anniversary of D-Day was brilliant.

RR was probably the last time I was really impressed with a presidential speech...it's all gone to sound bites now.
And my favorite line will always be the one about the most terrifying thing you can hear is "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" (RR)
Consider how our politicians speeches have declined in quality over the years...I'm betting most of you can remember at least the first sentence of FDR's radio address on 7 Dec 1941, but who can remember even one line from GWB's speech on 11 Sep 2001?




Yep Sarge! I guess the phrase, "those Evil-doer" just doesn't quite have the same ring to it as "A day which will live in infamy", does it???!!!



Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)

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