Yeah, I should of clarified my reason for not liking the stock pipes. They are just too quiet for my taste. I've heard the Bub slash cuts and Epco stainless slash cuts. I'm leaning toward the Bubs. I'm looking for a deep rumble tone. From what I've read about the sound of the Specialty Spares, they may also be what I'm looking for. Does anyone know where I may get a sound byte of these pipes?