on the seat was 61 miles and I was in the saddle for 67 minutes...part city, mostly freeway...on the stock seat I could only take 30 minutes before my butt wanted to get off...on this seat it took 67 minutes till I got that feeling...so better but not perfect...my back feels great, the back support is perfect...no need for any type of backrest with this seat. Next I will take staffos advice and go with the hagon nitros...thanks staffo...Jim