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You've probably heard about The Government's latest plan to reduce carbon emissions?: web page Worked out the proposed tax for our car. Typical family car, nothing special just an Astra 1.6 L, not a gas guzzler...£300!  Thought the £170 I've just had to pay was bad enough. Worked it out for the 1.8 L Vectra I used to own, would have been...£425!  And this is on top of paying the most expensive fuel prices I think in The World?! I also understand that if the UK theoretically managed not to produce any carbon emissions at all, it would only reduce The World's total emissions by I recall around 3% since we are after all said and done, quite a small country! Interestingly, apparently The Earth's temperature hasn't risen since 2000 and begs the question is the Greenhouse Effect actually as bad as it was predicted or does it exist anyway? Scientists can't seem to be able to agree if it's man made or just natural cyclic variations anyway. Must admit I'm sceptical, I do know a lot of interested parties stand to make a fortune in the guise of 'Going Green' though... Maybe we should just all ride  But at the end of the day we still need our cars...
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I was reading about the new Road Tax plan yesterday. Oh My! Now where is my 'big man sticking it to the little man' smiley 
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Its got bugger all to do with carbon emissions or the environment - its all about raising taxes!!  They only cloak it with these "green" tags to quell the protests!!!
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I think they will need to do a turnaround on this one, let's see,
1. we pay a charge now for driving into the town centers
2. we pay a charge for driving on motorways
3. we pay through the nose for petrol..
4. Road tax is high to begin with
5. MOT's go up every year
but it's all all right as it is going to save the planet!!!!!
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I think they will need to do a turnaround on this one
Agreed! And quite a few other policies IMO but we won't go there...And they wonder why they're loosing popularity... 
Rearrange the following: Real world not in the....
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Gina
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06 America - missing, presumed in bits. With it's TBS wheel... 
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Think I'm gonna cry. Anybody wanna buy my wifes 12 year old 4ltr petrol Jeep???
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The change to tax only applies to vehicles first registered after 2001! With the Jeep, you only have to worry about fuel consumption.
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Like Nobby says, they give it a 'green' tag so they can charge what they want.
I can't wait to see what my old '92 Merc will cost at 2.0 litres.
I wonder what the bike rates will go up to, over 1000cc is £66 at the mo ... I wonder what a 2.3l bike will be???
At least the Buick is road tax free (classed as an 'historic' vehicle as it's pre '73) but I MORE THAN make up for it in the fuel duty I pay for that thing!!
I'm stating a kitty to buy an island where we can tell the rest of the world to **** off, who's interested?
EDIT:
I just read Nobby's last post about pre 2001 cars ... phew!
"You can't believe everything you read on the internet" : William Shakespeare
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Think I'm gonna cry. Anybody wanna buy my wifes 12 year old 4ltr petrol Jeep???
I'll give you fifty quid mate! 
OR .....
trade for my 7.5 litre Buick
"You can't believe everything you read on the internet" : William Shakespeare
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I think those of us in the colonies need to quitourbitching. You guys are getting hammered beyond belief. I watched the Will Smith "I am Legend" last night and think all of the worlds governments have come down with rabies but the UK seems to have been hit worse of all.
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Oh I give up!
I got sunstroke ... YEAH!!! sunstroke ... well I'm burnt to buggery anyway - ask Stretchermonley, I musta been glowing by the time I last saw him at around 4 at the car show.
Ironic really, we're talking how much we're getting shafted for petrol and duty on bigger engines and I'm at an American car show
I'd love to see the size of the hole in the ozone layer over Newark this last weekend! 
"You can't believe everything you read on the internet" : William Shakespeare
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I think those of us in the colonies need to quitourbitching. You guys are getting hammered beyond belief. I watched the Will Smith "I am Legend" last night and think all of the worlds governments have come down with rabies but the UK seems to have been hit worse of all.
Knock on wood when you say that. If we elect the wrong politicians, like the Brits did, we'll be in the same boat soon enough.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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In the words of a famous Englishman.
Don't ask me what I want it for, (ah-ah, mister Wilson)
If you don't want to pay some more. (ah-ah, mister heath)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.
Now my advice for those who die, (taxman)
Declare the pennies on your eyes. (taxman)
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.
And you're working for no one but me.
Taxman!
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
While you're living beyond all your means
And the man in the suit has just bought a new car
From the profit he's made on your dreams
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Whoever goes out now searching barns and garden sheds for vintage vehicles stands to make a fortune. I think they will be very popular soon.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Hey Funkletrumpet, lets buy the Isle of Man We can set it up as a bikes only island with no speed limits and lots of biker friendly pubs.....Oh I forgot, it's already like that.
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I'd love to see the size of the hole in the ozone layer over Newark this last weekend!
Not as big as the one made this weekend here in Lancashire 
Great Eccleston Show 2008
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I'd love to see the size of the hole in the ozone layer over Newark this last weekend!
Not as big as the one made this weekend here in Lancashire
Great Eccleston Show 2008
Or Mallory.... Festival of 1000 Bikes was this weekend. Wash out Saturday.....I got sunburnt yesterday. And no, my bloody old thing didn't go, but my faithful 03 did. But all the bikes - and the stinky 2 srokes... How many fumes from all that? And how much duty from running vehicles on the private roads?????
Gina
03 America - Pretty stock - except the TBS wheel...
06 America - missing, presumed in bits. With it's TBS wheel...
09 America - It's very blue....
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Hey Funkletrumpet, lets buy the Isle of Man We can set it up as a bikes only island with no speed limits and lots of biker friendly pubs.....Oh I forgot, it's already like that.
My lovely Isle of Man registered car (beemer 3 series) got written off last week on the M27. I'd dodged tax (£100 for 12 months) and MOTs for 4 Years!!!
DAMMMM that Citroen Saxo!!!! 
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Oh I give up!
I got sunstroke ... YEAH!!! sunstroke ... well I'm burnt to buggery anyway - ask Stretchermonley, I musta been glowing by the time I last saw him at around 4 at the car show.
Ironic really, we're talking how much we're getting shafted for petrol and duty on bigger engines and I'm at an American car show
I'd love to see the size of the hole in the ozone layer over Newark this last weekend!
You didn't look too bad before you left matey!
Now I stayed out drinking Newcastle Brown and watching Limehouse Lizzy on the stage and got a bit red to say the least. One of those t shirt sunburns - I look like an Arsenal shirt in reverse!
But it was a good show over the 2 days watching Brits trying to be American which made the missus giggle a bit.
The sad thing about it all was the amount of people advertising their cars and motorhomes for sale because of the fuel costs.
I think the government has it all wrong. We tax ourselves senseless to the point of making life less enjoyable and idly sit by and let places like China and India flout pollution reduction targets.
I just think we need to have someone in government who isn't afraid of other countries and with the current choices we have it's not going to happen for a long long time.
Before the war on terror, if I saw an unattended package I used to think "I'll be having that!"
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Considering the big scare the same doomsayers tried to cause about nuclear winter, I still think this is all going to end up with an EPA summer.
I still can't quite grasp the concept of taxing CO2 out of existence. It's like the scam that California tried some years ago, charging people importing 49 state cars some $300. Somehow, that fee was supposed to bless their cars into meeting CA emission standards.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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"but it's all all right as it is going to save the planet!!!!!"
I started out sincerely trying to reduce my carbon footprint, hoking thru my rubbish for the cardboard, tin etc, bringing my empties to a recycling bin, but the more these neo-labour control freaks enforce the issue the less inclined i am to give a f*ck.
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"but it's all all right as it is going to save the planet!!!!!"
I started out sincerely trying to reduce my carbon footprint, hoking thru my rubbish for the cardboard, tin etc, bringing my empties to a recycling bin, but the more these neo-labour control freaks enforce the issue the less inclined i am to give a f*ck.
Presume you are in the UK then HoolyNI
Ray(UK)
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