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I mean, back in the day you could buy a honda 450 that was reliable, quiet, and would beat or at worse equal today's triumph 790 and 865 cruisers



What honda 450 are you talking about?

Just for grins, I looked up the specs on a '72 CB 450 four stroke
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_cb_450_disc_1972.php
(couldn't find the torque)

Here's a couple of pertinent items:
HP - 45 HP @ 9000 rpm
Weight - 449.7 pounds

HP - 55 HP @ 6500 rpm
Weight - 504.9 pounds

I seriously doubt the above statement. Are you basing it on the perceptions of the RAT guy? I would want to see a real world test.

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Even one of the guys at RAT who has both a new twin (think it was a speedy tho can't recall for sure)and a 70's honda 450 told me his 450 was slightly quicker



Any mods on the 450 or the SM?

More information is definitely needed.....


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