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Don't know how this could fix the SM cut out problem though. I know that even without a TPS I could not get a SM to rev more than 8100 (modded program) before cutting out. A 360 Bonnie will rev 14000 if you are brave (only tried 11000 myself)"



But what about the notion that cast pistons and rods can't handle much more than the limiter allows? bAre bon nies equipped with forged parts, and if not why didn't 11k kill it?

And as for the notion they don't develop more power beyond the limiter, i'm sure mine would. It hits the limiter at a point where it feels like it's just starting to take off ! I think w/o the limiter the bike's accelleration time would go way down. But after hearing the cast vs forged argument i wouldn't try it even if i vould get my hands on a box. Not to mention the valve float someone else cited. But i bet this bike would be far better with a forged BB kit and stronger springs or whatever had to be done there to aliviate float. All i know is i can feel the bike beginning to build power pretty quickly at the point just before the limiter kicks in. My bike is piped and intake modded and hits the limiter fast and easy.

man, i wish they would just throw all this tuning BS out the window and build a uninhibited twin in the 1200cc reigon. No limiter, cast pistons and rods and a strong valve and cam setup and build it so it's "pipe and intake mod ready" if you will. Build it so it can be brought to a highly tuned stae easily w/o all the impossible to bypass BS. I mean, back in the day you could buy a honda 450 that was reliable, quiet, and would beat or at worse equal today's triumph 790 and 865 cruisers ! Even one of the guiys at RAT who has both a new twin (think it was a speedy tho can't recall for sure)and a 70's honda 450 told me his 450 was slightly quicker. And i asked him that because i recall having ridden them back then that if memory served, they seemed faster than my bike, and he agreed. Plus his bike has around 100k miles ! I just don't understand why triumph can't build a street legal 790/865 that could blast todays offerings and still be reliable and legal as noise goes. And by the way, wasn't the 450's redline at least 1k more than our bikes if not 2k? I love my bike dearly but i do wish it would perform as well as it should for it's size. (waiting impatiently to see what comes out of hinkley next)