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right cylinder cuts out
#272087 06/14/2008 7:18 AM
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right cylinder cuts out. this has happened at least 5 ties in the past 3 years. it happens either when it's cool early in a ride or hot after a long ride and appears to be random, and it always the right jug. usually it lasts 10 minutes or so then just resolves itself. usually w/ a back fire.
could this be a coil problem? i tried inspecting the plug/coil wire and it looks fine.

new coils?

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Re: right cylinder cuts out
cat #272088 06/14/2008 8:22 AM
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Sounds like a coil, you could check it out by swopping the coils round,


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birchr #272089 06/14/2008 8:25 AM
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Exactly my thoughts, physically swap the coils and see if the problem moves to the left side.


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Re: right cylinder cuts out
cat #272090 06/14/2008 8:52 AM
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new plugs? They cause a lot of problems and are cheap enough


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Dinqua #272091 06/14/2008 2:38 PM
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i think it's the coil: 3 times it funked out today...

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Re: right cylinder cuts out
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Try your coils, if it persists, change plugs like Pat says, if it still persists try swopping the leads over.. if it carries on think CDI and hope and pray it isn't


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birchr #272093 06/15/2008 7:02 AM
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got some nology coils/wires coming. searching the CDI problems, it seems like this has been a hot topic. boy, it really makes me think about the bike. i've had good luck at 24,000 miles, but i see where one guy had 4 installed. i wonder how many owners have had just coil problems vs CDI problems. reading back pages here makes me think the likelihood of a coil being bad is a bit remote.

i also see there was a triumph sheet on gapping something in the ? from .10 to .08...

this what happens when i move and have to stop riding for a while, i lose touch and important information...

maybe i should take it to the dealer after i install the coils?

i guess i need to swap leads and plug wires to the coils and see if it repeats on the opposite side.



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Re: right cylinder cuts out
cat #272094 06/15/2008 7:16 AM
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i also see there was a triumph sheet on gapping something in the ? from .10 to .08...

this what happens when i move and have to stop riding for a while, i lose touch and important information...

maybe i should take it to the dealer after i install the coils?

i guess i need to swap leads and plug wires to the coils and see if it repeats on the opposite side.

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The spec change on the gap is the sensor/pickup coil under the right cover that sends the firing pulse to the ignitor, changed from 1.0 mm to 0.8 mm and reported to cure future ignition failures.
Please swap your original coils first and see if the problem migrates with the coil, it's going to be the only way to truly diagnose the problem.


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Re: right cylinder cuts out
oldroadie #272095 06/15/2008 8:47 AM
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swapped all the wires out and ran it in the neighborhood and it started to rain but it did cut out in the garage, and after swapping coils, it's still the right side.

so the next step is the plugs?

thanks for your help btw
cat

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cat #272096 06/15/2008 8:58 AM
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If you have a bad coil the problem will move with it. If you have a faulty ignitor, the problem will remain on the same side.


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oldroadie #272097 06/15/2008 9:33 AM
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tried another plug same problem.
does triumph acknowledge this problem...
replace the CDI for free?

bummer.

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Re: right cylinder cuts out
cat #272098 06/15/2008 12:20 PM
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tried another plug same problem.
does triumph acknowledge this problem...
replace the CDI for free?

bummer.

cat




How old is the bike Michael, mine is 4 years old and Triumph have just stopped replacing the CDI and said they must be a problem with it.. "3 replacements" though


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Getting a goodwill swap on a CDI is a hit & miss proposition.
In any case, the problem will have to be diagnosed by a dealer.


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Re: right cylinder cuts out
rhnstn #272100 06/15/2008 1:33 PM
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Not all the time, I diagnosed mine, by taking it off my bike and trying it on one that was running fine. I telephoned Triumph Hinckley who sent one out to the dealer for me to pick up. Put it on the bike and bingo works perfect again. Maybe with me being on my 3rd replacement has something to do with it, or the fact that the dealer had no bike to try my old CDI on, as they are all EFI in the UK now.


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Re: right cylinder cuts out
birchr #272101 06/15/2008 2:24 PM
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it's an '03, Ray.
to the dealer tomorrow-- got to get it fixed anyway. i could do all the work but i kind of want it documented even though i have no warranty.

24,000 miles. i'm probably due for a valve check too.
kaching!!$$

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Re: right cylinder cuts out
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24,000 miles. i'm probably due for a valve check too.
kaching!!$$

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I know the CDI in the UK £375.75 as I have just got mine replaced and it had the price on the bag. Will keep fingers crossed for ya Michael that it aint the CDI


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