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Well here's the dyno table of all the results I can find. If there are any other dynos that members want put into the table, just pm or email Richard (foglefar) at foglefar@tpg.com.au your dyno printout (for verification) and all the details that need to go into the table.

If all the gap info in the table could be sent to Richard also, that would be great.

BTW, dynos are primarily a tool which allow the bike's owner to adjust his or her tuning setup to achieve optimum performance. Whilst it is interesting to compare this bike to that, there are way too many variables to assume one bike is sooo much more powerful than another. Of course, if there are large gaps, well that's another story.




Here are the dyno printouts:

Dinqua


Robba05


Martin


LzrdKing61


Frank


Unclecharlie


Bigpoppy


ArsnlTim


Greentp99


Roadworthy


Trboam


Staffo

FANTASTIC!!!! Thanks so much for your time putting this together!!!

That's good work John. I wonder if your participants might include their operating range altitude to correlate the jetting for like minded tuners?

Nice job Staffo.
I have several other dynos that I will find the pix of with varying stages of build if you would like.
Also, on this current one I have the MegaCycle medium street grind cams as well. I had a better dyno previously too that I will send to ya if you want it.

thanks for your Comments, Dave, Ed and Pat. Regarding putting info in. I will try and put any info in that I can which will help others. This includes altitude where people operate or any other pertinent info. The table is just a work in progress which I can change and improve as we see fit. So I'll just stay on it and if I get more good info, I'll put it in. That includes any or all your dyno's Pat which I would love to put into the table.

This thing is all about analysis for us to look at and then to determine what we can do to improve our own bikes. So any info that will do that should be part of this I reckon.

Of coarse, I'm open to any suggestions to make this work better for us and importantly, our newbies.

I've also now got info from Hans, Trey and Bob to put in later but as I'm busy today, probably later tmw.

Well, put in the notes that mine was lean throughout the rpm range, jets were too small
Thanks, Dave

good job staffo, my home elev. is 4700' for those who want to know.also used 18 tooth tranny sprocket

stv

Although making good HP I was Pi$$in fuel out the exhaust...I have since dropped to 130 mains and 1 shim...still pulls hard and don't think I lost any HP but I have not re-dynoed...yet

just another reason why this is the best website on the www!!

Here's a new table with some more member results.




Ramsound's Runs

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The dyno was done prior to it being re-broken in and they stopped it around 6,000 rpm

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Trey's 1st Run with a Stock Bike


Trey's 2nd Run


Hasse's Dynos



The font is just a little bit small cos of the extra colomns, but it's still readable. If anyone has a better idea of how this info can be put up here, I'm all ears

Otherwise, we'll just keep going this way. So if anyone has anymore results, send them to me and I'll put up your numbers.

One further thing, if we can fill in the squares with the appropriate info, it'd give our readers more info to ponder

Staffo

I think this thread should be stickied! And the charts archived.

We have 2 more results. The first is Pat's (Dinqua's) first dyno run with his stock carbs after he bored out his SM to 904. The second is from John (MGJohnE) with his 2006 SM.





Pat's First Dyno Run


MGJohnE's Dyno Run

Fyi, here's the latest Dyno Table with bjhube's dyno run.

BTW, if anyone else wants their run posted up here, just pm or email me with a pic of your dyno printout and info of your bike's settings

DynoTableImage.jpg



bjube's dyno run
18bjhube.jpg

Hi all,

a little while ago I compiled this list of dyno runs just for interest, but mainly as a tool to help others select a base mark for jets and other settings they could use after changing pipes and air filters etc.

I also must take this opportunity to apologise to Jim (member name not known) who sent me his dyno result but unfortunately I received it as a spam email and when I closed his email it disappeared.

So if you are reading this Jim, can you please send me your dyno run again and I'll add it to our table.

Of course if anyone else wants to send me their dyno run printouts, I'll also be happy to add it to our "dyno table".

cheers

Staffo

Staffo, are the dyno results shown SAE corrected, uncorrected, or unknown?

I think my dyno was the one that was picked up as spam. I sent them again and sent a pm. Let me know if you get them.

Ken, do I look stupid?

Actually, I've got no idea what you mean so maybe I've answered the question for myself

All I know about these dyno reports is that some are done on different machines by different operators. Some for instance are done on the latest "you beaut" wizz bang models by the bestest well trained operator known to man which hopefully will give an accurate report.

Of course on the other hand a different dyno report may have been generated by a machine and operator with less than accurate results.

So IMHO it's not about "who's got the bestest ****** bike this side of the black stump" but more about comparing what sized jets (amongst all the other mods)someone used for instance, and what readout they got because of it.

Personally, one of the first things I'll look at is the air/fuel ratio because if it is shows a nice straight line, there's a good chance the bikes settings are up to scratch, and hopefully this will mean some nice numbers for the bike.

So if I haven't answered your question, hopefully someone else will pipe up and clarify for you.

I don't know much about dyno's; however, the place I took my bike here in Oklahoma City pretty much does V-twins. They charged $50 for a baseline dyno and said they couldn't do a dyno tune on it since they don't have experience with the parallel twins. They are a Big Dog dealer and also do a lot of Harley work. Our local Triumph dealer doesn't have a dyno. It looks like they stopped the run at 6K rpm showing 51.68 HP and 48.53 max torque. The tech said I was running a little rich and should probably go down one size in the main jet. I have not looked in the carbs; however, when the initial airbox removal, AI removal, pipe installation and re-jetting were done at the dealer, I was told they left the stock pilots and put in 160 mains. Hopefully the dyno results will get through to Staffo and can get posted. I would appreciate some input from you folks with more experience. The bike seems to run great and I get a good 45 to 50 mpg's. It doesnt pop on decel and starts like a champ. I only took it to the dyno to see if I could get a little more out of it. It does seem to lack response at about 50 mph when I go to wide open throttle. One funny thing about the dyno run was the response from the guys at the shop. Three of the techs who work on custom choppers, high dollar Harleys and $40,000 Big Dogs came over to talk to me about the bike. They said it was the smoothest running bike they had seen. They also said they didn't often see a bike that pulled that consistently through the run. If the charts get posted, you will see it was a straight pull.

I thought we didn't like dynos here.

Who's "we".

If you are being serious Jack, then just treat the info with contempt, or you could just ignore the thread

With respect though, dyno's should be treated as just another form of info to throw into the mix

For instance, I recently put on some staintune pipes and my "bum dyno", plugs and fuel economy are saying my next dyno numbers should look ok.

So I guess if the dyno printout figures look like cr#p then put me in with the "we" crowd.

Hi all, here's the latest dyno table printout with Bill's numbers. Apologies for the poor quality but I am struggling to get all the details of the 19 different dynos into a format that every can see properly.

If anyone has any suggestions, I will be more than happy to adopt them if they will work.

When I have some spare time I might try something else to improve the quality.



Dynotable31-12-08.jpg


BillsDyno19.jpg

I just had my bike on a dyno at a local shop (open house so free dyno runs for all).
Of course the printer wasnt working and of course they cleard my graph before I could see it

I did come in at 54.7hp. Seems inline with other 865s with SS pipes, K&Ns and similar jetting.

Ill have to go back one day and pay for a run so I can see the table and get more info for Staffo to add to this awesome thread.

BTW...why isnt it a sticky yet?

Hi all, I think I may have found a way to properly show the dyno table rather than using the prehistoric methods.

Apologies to anyone who many have sent their dyno run to me and it isn't display but the original means was hopelessly slow and not that good anyway so hopefully this new method will be betterererere

So now I've found a good way to upload a table, if anyone else wants to send their dynos to me I will upload them to here for you.

cheers
Staffo

The Latest Dyno Table - May 09
share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=08b4c9d8-5fc1-42b5-9a41-ade68acfcd14


Les' Dyno
share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=1ed51743-6747-4d27-818a-87442a200bd7

I know very little about dynos, but why is Greentp99 numbers so much lower. Looks like a good set up to me-but shows 10-15 hp lower??? This is a cool idea for a thread-Ill add mine when I do it.

I'll send you 3 dyno sheets in about a week or so to add to the charts.

you love it!

No probs Dave. Now we have a descent method of looking at them, this thread may now get a bit more use.

There are some though that aren't big believers in dynos but the way I look at it is it's only info. I also reckon the dyno Table can show newbies what type of settings are standard to get some real gains out of their own bikes.

No harm in that is there. Then of course we might even see some of the bigger numbers that come with the more serious mods some venture into which I find good value too.

Anyway, if anyone is interested in sending me the dyno printouts via jpeg, I'll upload but don't forget to advise me of what your settings are eg type of pipes, air filter changes, pilot and main jets etc etc so I can put them in the results Table.

cheers
staffo

Staffo,
Id suggest splitting up the chart into sections like 790, 865, 904 and bigger.

The data you have compiled in one palce was (as you mentioned) a reference for me so I knew what range I should be in when I finally got onto that dyno.

If things go as panned Ill also be sending you stages of dyno runs. I can see Freds carbs in my future and Im really thinking of the TPUSA 865 cam/piston kit.

Ohh...the bug...I have been bit.

Hi Zdenko. I wouldn't mind splitting the table up into categories like you suggest but there would also be a category where I didn't know what displacement some were cos there are some on the dyno table where a members CC's wasn't forthcoming.

I guess what I'm saying is, if anyone who is on the Dyno table that hasn't given me their displacement yet (ie 790cc or 865cc etc), then can you let me know so I can put it into the table.

If I can get more of these put in I'll then change the table Zdenko .

Hey John - anyone run an EFI on a dyno yet? I would be interested to see what real HP/Torque difference there is between the 3 available maps (stock, TOR & aftermarket pipes) and also freer flowing air.

I have posted it somewhere.
Efi with aftermarket exhaust, k & N pods, tuneboy programme

Found it.
180 intakes

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Found it.
180 intakes

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Awesome - but the link doesn't go anywhere. (Edited: it does now!)

Tell me about the Tuneboy map. Where did you get it done? What exhaust do you have? Any issues fitting pods with the EFI?

I have Staintune pipes, K&N stock shape filter (a bit better flow than stock I believe) and Triumph's map for aftermarket pipes.

Just found the right link ...

Davo's EFI dyno (180 degree intakes)

Did you resolve the lost 10HP at the top end?

i should finally have a good dyno of my bike in a week or so.

Latest Dyno 2
share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=bad92031-cea1-4136-97a1-9c2f12697d7d


Pete's Printout
share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=9f5a4c1f-a0d1-4f77-bd54-7addbc19da71

New table with Goosmans numbers

Gooseman's Dyno Printout

Btw, if there are any other dynos out there that I have mistakenly forgotten to put in the table due to problems with software etc, I apologise.

If so, or if there are any other dynos out there that members want me to put in the table, you can send them either to my personal email address or by pm.

One last thing, dyno info is a guide only and most who have been round for a while will agree there are many variables that can effect a dyno's printout numbers and, there are different types of dyno machines as well.

Fyi, my main reason for creating the table was to show other members how some minor changes described in the table can increase the numbers quite dramatically.

cheers
staffo

Edited: The links remain broken as no new files exist to update said links.

Hi all, I am having a few issues (yeah, what's new Staffo) with some of this I.T. rubbish, so I've decided to republish all the Dyno Printouts from my Photobucket and just so you all know, the latest dyno table and perhaps not the previous tables will show all the relevent numbers. It's a long story but basically it's all about my not wanting to pay dollars from my wallet to maintain loads of pdf files.

I hope that make sense.

Here's the Printouts I have again.


Dinquas1stDyno

Dinquas Dyno

Robbos Dyno

Martin's Dyno

LzrdKing's Dyno

Frank's Dyno

UncleCharlie's Dyno

Bigpoppy's Dyno

Arsnltim's Dyno

Greentp99's Dyno

trboam Dyno

Staffo Dyno

Staffo's 2nd Dyno using Staintunes. Dyno shows I'm a bit rich so I'll change to 42 pilot jets

Ramsound's Dyno

Treys1stDyno

Trey's 2nd Dyno

Hasses Dyno

MGJohnE Dyno

3rd Dyno

18bjhube's Dyno

Bills Dyno

LesBurtard Dyno

Pete777dyno

Echoance dyno

Gooseman's Dyno

Roadworthy's 1st and 2nd Dyno

Roadworthy's 3rd and 4th Dyno

Roadworthy's 3rd and 4th Dyno

The Dyno Table

Hey Staffo...
Any dynos of EFI bikes?

Actually, we just have got a efi dyno from Davo. I have pm'd him and asked for his details so I can put it on the table.