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I think it has been proven that a person involved in a cell phone conversation is just as impaired as someone drinking.
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I agree that we need to identify and get the habitual drunks off the road
I agree, but if it's already a habit/habitual, then it's too late. Each and every time someone impared drives, there is that increased chance they will hurt someone. First time, 5th time, 1000th time, doesn't matter. That's why they come up with a number like .08. They need some (fair?) standard for everyone. Maybe someone will blow higher than that immediately after they finish a beer? Not sure, but I think there was a mythbusters episode on that too... The solution is real simple, just not easy.
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I agree with Deon here. Severe punishment gets you no where. I also agree with the above statement that someone who accidently kills another pays for it the rest of there life, regardless of the "punishment" set by "law" . Punishment doesn't work because not enough people have been educated about said punishment. Blame it on the media or whoever here, it really doesn't matter.
That being said, I think Milio had some great ideas. Education is the key here. MSF classes are a great thing for anyone (not to mention they are fun). I believe that if people were aware of how easy it is to "not see a motorcyclist" they would be a little more cautious. Incorporating motorcycle awareness into drivers training and also having some questions regarding motorcycles on the drivers test could help immensely. Questions like: If a motorcyclist flashes his lights at you, does that mean that he has given you the right of way?; True or False: The reason for following motorcycles at a greater distance is because motorcycles take longer to slow down that cars.; When a motorcycle is behind you, you should: A. Slow down. B. Speed Up. C. Pull off to the right side of your lane of travel so that the motorcyclist may pass you more easily (this one annoys the ****** out of me). D. Maintain speed.; etc., etc. It doesn't take long to come up with some good questions, sampling questions from the motorcycle license test for the normal drivers test may not be a bad idea either.
Another thing that would be nice would be some simple simulators. Things like: pulling out of an intersection and a motorcycle is coming your way. Possibly use the same type of optical illusion that MSF had on their website about the reason sometimes people don't see an oncoming motorcycle (everyone loves an optical illusion, maybe it will click that people need to take extra caution when pulling out of a driveway or intersection). Also, and I like this one, as I was run off the road tonight: have someone put a cardboard cut out of a motorcycle in the drivers blind spot after they have parallel parked during the driving test. Make them realize that they must look over their shoulder when changing lanes because there could be another vehicle there.
O,K, I'm done with my rant.
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Excellent suggestions there, Dave!!! (and also well said!!!)  HOWEVER...(and call me a "glass-half-empty" sort'a guy here if ya want here)...I really wonder if ANYTHING, be it "driver education" or "punishment" is EVER going to get a vast majority of cagers(or for THAT MATTER even the vast majority of M/C riders) to become more proficient and conscientious operators of their vehicles? You see, I've always felt that this "healthy sense of suspicion" I possess about the apparent general lack of competence that most operators of motor vehicles in this country demonstrate daily(a sense that I've cultivated over my 56 years on this planet, and over 41 years of ridin' on these things known as motorcycles) is the MAIN REASON that I'm STILL ALIVE after all these years and able to type this here response to you!  In other words...I don't think the "average american" is either all that bright and/or able to digest a whole lot of "education" that won't fit into their little philosophy that their wants and needs should mostly come first and the heck with looking out for somebody else" OR anything other then THEIR little priorities in life! And I BETCHA we motocycle rider are pretty looooow on THEIR list of priorities, and always WILL BE!!! And so, I don't think the idea that we're ever going to "educate" a vast majority of those folks out there TO SEE US isn't necessarilly a "pragmatic vision", my friend! But, I suppose it's worth a shot, huh?! But of course THAT probably would mean(shutter!!!)RAISING TAXES to PAY for this "new education" ya know??? And given the present american mindset about THAT, well...my GUESS is that that RIGHT THERE is gonna be a "deal breaker" dude!!! (hey...now didn't I tell ya I might be one o' those "glass-half-empty" sort'a guys???) 
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Thanks Dwight,
I agree with you, most people are incompetent and probably don't deserve to be walking let alone driving.
I don't see any of that requiring too much of a tax hike. Most of it is just taking some of the questions from the motorcycle test and putting them into the appropriate hand outs and the driver's test. Wait until the new years handouts are being made up and put the revisions in them. Coordinating with MSF could save some $. But, then again, we are talking about our government and there needs to be a comity headed by the governor's brother for everything.
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You're probably right about the costs being somewhat negligible when it would come to emphasizing to drivers their need to watch out for motorcyclists as they first apply for(or even renew) their drivers licenses. However, I think you understand the point I was making there. It seems eventually most people "forget their lessons" after awhile, and that's why it'll always pretty much be incumbent upon us as motorcyclists to watch out for the other guy, as WE will always be the most vulnerable out there. (I mean, I don't know about YOU, but I can't remember a darn thing about high school Algebra anymore...see how we can all often "forget our lessons"???!!!) 
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I would have to agree the old trick they use in court is I didn't see the motorcycle and get a slap on the hand. Far too many times I have seen drivers slam on there brakes to avoid hitting a animal in the road as small as a squirrel but cant see the biker with headlights on. Drivers need to pay for the crime. Go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.
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I would have to agree the old trick they use in court is I didn't see the motorcycle and get a slap on the hand. Far too many times I have seen drivers slam on there brakes to avoid hitting a animal in the road as small as a squirrel but cant see the biker with headlights on. Drivers need to pay for the crime. Go to jail for vehicular manslaughter.
I still think "I didn't see the motorcycle that was in plain sight" should be taken as an admission that they are too blind to drive and their license should be permanently revoked on the spot.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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I still think "I didn't see the motorcycle that was in plain sight" should be taken as an admission that they are too blind to drive and their license should be permanently revoked on the spot.
I agree!
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Explain to me why one person is worth more than another?
In Ct last weekend A 17 year girl old was killed in a single car accedent. Tragic yes. She was driving alone ran off the road.Struck a tree and was killed. Key words here SINGLE CAR ACCDENT, YOUNG DRIVER, RAN OFF ROAD. What does that tell you?
It was front page news in the papers. Full report on televsion.
Sunday a 37 yr old motorcylist was killed in what looks to me like an "I didnt see him" case. Tragic yes.
It recived about 6 lines in the Hartford Current burried in the "towns" section.
Oh well another toothless dirty biker bites the dust, who gives a ****** right?
Whats my point? Getting any type of harsher pounishment for the "I didnt see em" pin heads out there would be impossible
so long as the "oh well another biker bought it" attitude prevails.
You want to do somthing Mr Politico? get your states papers to put it on the front page. Make it a law big bold type.
"I DIDNT SEE EM" put the asshats picture with it. State web site of "I didnt see em" asshats.Would be good too. Just maybe sombodyed notice.
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I hear you and could not agree more. A bicyclist clips a trailer when she turned onto a highway from a side road and the hue and cry is amazing. 'Oh we must do something about the bicyclists-share the road, etc" The paper went into great detail about who she was and her family, etc.
A woman in an SUV pulls out from a side street crossing a major higway and a BMW 1200 T-bones her. The paper noted he was wearing a helmet. The paper never mentioned he had 3 children, was a EE and had worked at Dell since it was founded-in other words apparently a good citizen.
I wasn't there and I can't say for sure, but I see bicycle riders zip through stop signs like they don't exist and clipping a trailer of a vehicle that had the right of way is suspicious, in my mind.
Two people are dead and that's a shame but the Cit of Austin spends millions on special lanes for bicycles-and I have nothing against that. The only time they do something for the motorcycles is like last week during the Republic of Texas Rally that brought 250,000 people and 40,000 motorcycles to town( and bunches of dollars). They put a "share the road -motorcycles are everywhere" on the Amber Alert signs.
Yeah, we are second class citizens.
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I wonder how many of you would want to see your, (wife,daughter,son,etc) hung, or sent to prison for life if they happened to be the ones who didnt see the motorbike. Accidents do happen. Me personally I think banning cell phone use from moving vehicles would do more to make us all safer on the highways.
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Well, in about a week from now(July 1st, to be exact) "The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia"(as some call it around here) will make driving and using any hand-held cell phone a moving violation!!!
But then again, THAT'S "Kalifornia" for ya, ya know?!
(I mean, I wouldn't expect most of the other states to deprive their citizenry of their "god-given right to choose to multi-task" while driving", ya know!)
Add BTW...DARN GOOD POINT about "putting the shoe on the other foot" there. I agree!!! I ALSO wonder how some of the "throw the book at 'em" crowd around here would feel if it was their WIFE or their KID driving the cage and who "didn't see the motorcyclist"???
(I expect after that question, it'll get mighty friggin' quiet 'round here, HUH?!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Well, in about a week from now(July 1st, to be exact) "The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia"(as some call it around here) will make driving and using any hand-held cell phone a moving violation!!!
But then again, THAT'S "Kalifornia" for ya, ya know?!
(I mean, I wouldn't expect most of the other states to deprive their citizenry of their "god-given right to choose to multi-task" while driving", ya know!)
Add BTW...DARN GOOD POINT about "putting the shoe on the other foot" there. I agree!!! I ALSO wonder how some of the "throw the book at 'em" crowd around here would feel if it was their WIFE or their KID driving the cage and who "didn't see the motorcyclist"???
(I expect after that question, it'll get mighty friggin' quiet 'round here, HUH?!)
CT enacted a no cell phone while driving law 2 years ago.
(My you Califorians are like ...SO behind the times).
Its become another of those often ignored rarley enforced
traffic laws. Every once in a while the state will set
up an "observation post", To spot run down and ticket cell phone users.Usually the week before a major holiday.
Then it gets forgotten. No law is anygood if not enforced.
SO if any CT state troopers see this...GET OF YOUR DEAD AZZ AND WRITE SOME TICKETS.
As for the "hang em highs"...well it's natural for parents or spouses to run to the aid of a child or wife.
But in the US we seems to train our kids form youth to avoid
takeing responcability for their actions(please note the Hogan family) thus we have "The Lawyer State".Goes back to the old "It's societies fault that my kid held up that liquor store".Oh and lets not forget the old 80's catch phrase "Gotta look out for number one" we seem to live by that now.
As for "I did not see him"..I think in a lot of cases truth would be more like.."I thought I could beat him",,," I figured he'd stop"..."I dont care if he had the right of way..me first"
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Yea, but the penalty for doing so is $20...a little less than spitting on the sidewalk...were if you have a measly .08% alcohol in your blood it cost about $5,000
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Yea, but the penalty for doing so is $20...a little less than spitting on the sidewalk...were if you have a measly .08% alcohol in your blood it cost about $5,000
Humm dose seem a little,light I think a lifetime suspention should go along with that 5000 .08.
The percentage you're paying is too high-priced
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I wonder how many of you would want to see your, (wife,daughter,son,etc) hung, or sent to prison for life if they happened to be the ones who didnt see the motorbike. Accidents do happen. Me personally I think banning cell phone use from moving vehicles would do more to make us all safer on the highways.
If your wife or kid is acting in a reckless manner in careless disregard of the lives of others should they get off with a slap on the wrist? If someone is seriously injured or killed because your wife or kid either couldn't be bothered to look or looked and ran over someone anyhow, should they get off lightly?
Just a few days ago I had some idiot on a cell phone change lanes into me because she couldn't be bothered to look. Blasting her with the Stebel horn and the sound of the TOR pipes were not enough to get her attention off her phone, and she had her window open! Luckily I had room to maneuver and when she finally noticed me she gave ME the stink eye! I'm sure she is someone's wife and child, but so what? She acted in wanton disregard for my safety and I’m sure I’m not the first.
If a person is injured or dies through the wanton indifference or carelessness of another in a situation not involving a motor vehicle there are usually serious consequences. Why shouldn’t killing or injuring someone with a car be treated the same way?
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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"The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia"(as some call it around here)
I think I struck a nerve.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can still use hands-free setups in California, no?
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"The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia"(as some call it around here)
I think I struck a nerve.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can still use hands-free setups in California, no?
Da, "Comrade Friarsky"! Et vill still not be forbidden to use hands-free setups in "Kalifornia" after the first of July.
(now if you vill excuse me, Natasha and I are on trail of Moose and Squirrel, and if we lose them, Fearless Leader vill send us to GULAG in MALIBU...and so...dasvidanya for now, Comrade Friarsky!!!...actually come to think of it, I hope I DO lose Moose and Squirrel...Malibu sounds much better to me than either East Helena OR Tucson ever would, buddy...err...I mean comrade!!!)
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That's weird. They've been talking about this on the Adam Carolla show and giving away some kind of hands free system as a result. What did I miss?
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If your wife or kid is acting in a reckless manner in careless disregard of the lives of others should they get off with a slap on the wrist? If someone is seriously injured or killed because your wife or kid either couldn't be bothered to look or looked and ran over someone anyhow, should they get off lightly?
I agree, but how do you differentiate blatant carelessness from an honest mistake? Like he said, accidents do happen... It's an existential argument really... Judging someone on their actions VS their intentions.
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Good points Larry.
I think the "wanton disregard" is the key phrase there.
And very hard to prove.
But if it is proven, the penalties should be appropriate.
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Well, in about a week from now(July 1st, to be exact) "The Peoples Republik of Kalifornia"(as some call it around here) will make driving and using any hand-held cell phone a moving violation!!!
But then again, THAT'S "Kalifornia" for ya, ya know?!
(I mean, I wouldn't expect most of the other states to deprive their citizenry of their "god-given right to choose to multi-task" while driving", ya know!)
Add BTW...DARN GOOD POINT about "putting the shoe on the other foot" there. I agree!!! I ALSO wonder how some of the "throw the book at 'em" crowd around here would feel if it was their WIFE or their KID driving the cage and who "didn't see the motorcyclist"???
(I expect after that question, it'll get mighty friggin' quiet 'round here, HUH?!)
CT enacted a no cell phone while driving law 2 years ago.
(My you Califorians are like ...SO behind the times).
 Maybe we should start spelling it "Konnektikut".
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As I get older I believe less in accidents. Most crashes and misadventures are caused by thoughtlessness, carelessness, laziness and stupidity. If I go out back and fire several rounds of 30.06 into the air on the 4th of July, and one of them lands on someone and kills them, is that an accident or the result my actions?
Similarly, if I fail to look at, or see, another vehicle that is clearly visible and has the right of way and I run into it and kill the operator is it truly an accident?
If I keep a dangerous animal and fail to keep it contained and it kills someone who is at fault? Can I claim it was an accident?
In each of these cases a dangerous situation was created and proper judgment was not exercised. No harm was intended but due to a failure of judgment someone died. Why should any of these situations be treated differently than any other?
Certainly justice must be tempered with mercy when called for. But first and foremost, there must be justice.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Well, in THAT case Larry, why don't we just go all the way back to the "root of the problem" here then?! I mean, you sound like the kind of "law and order candidate" I've been waitin' my whole life to vote for!!!
That's RIGHT! What say we just start throwin' in jail ALL the stupid friggin' PARENTS who made those "failures in judgement" years ago in the first place! I'm talkin' about those "failures in judgement" that they'd have the ability TO BE "good parents" and as Messrs Croby, Stills and Nash might'a asked 'em to in song..."teach your[their] children WELL"???
Yep! ya think "maybe" these BASIC "failures in judgement" just happen? OR, do ya think "maybe" there "just might be" some root parental causation for all the friggin' dunderheads out there today, HUH?!
Tell ya what dude, start pushing a Bill through your State Assembly that put's EVERYBODY on NORPLANT[or some other convenient form of birth control] until EVERYBODY'S at least 30 friggin' years old and when they're just STARTIN' to see how the world really works and have experience enough to impart this knowlegde upon their progeny and before they start poppin' their next generation of little dunderheaded rugrats out, and trust me dude, I'll FLY to IOWA and help you LOBBY FOR THAT!!!!
(until THEN...I gotta say that there ARE "things" known as "accidents" in this friggin' world, and that IT'S STILL UP TO US AS MOTORCYCLISTS AND AS THE MOST VULNERABLE OUT THERE ON THE ROAD TO WATCH OUT FOR ALL THOSE DUNDERHEADS IN CAGES WHO ARE NOT NOTICING US OUT THERE...and in good ol' "republican fashion" say to everybody, STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM and START TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR DECISION TO RIDE A VEHICLE THAT AFFORDS NO PROTECTION WHATSOEVER TO YOU, AND ALWAYS BE PREPARED FOR ANY NEGATIVE EFFECTS...AND...POSSIBLY LESSEN THESE POTENTIAL "NEGATIVE EFFECTS" BY EVEN WEARING A FREAKIN' HELMET!!!)
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As I get older I believe less in accidents.
I've been thinking about this and I tend to agree. All "accidents" are the result of negligence. Negligence is the true enemy. When it comes to riding a motorcycle (or anything, really) all you can do is try to eliminate opportunities for your own negligence and try to anticipate the negligence of others. The truly diligent may be able to eliminate about 95% of the former, and maybe 50-75% of the latter. That leaves a lot of room for "accidents." Of course, those occurances run along a continuum between a stubbed toe and death.
But really all of this is arguing semantics. S happens and it can be anybody's fault.
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As long as there is motion, there will be accidents. There must be justice, but the justice must fit the circumstances of the crime. The culprit and the victim must be dealt with in a consistent manner based on the situation, regardless of race, religion, social status, money, political leanings, or anything else...
If you can accomplish that, I may move to Iowa too!
Best of luck on your campaign. Hope you win and get the chance to effect some change.
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Let me first tell you of my situation yesterday. I was heading home from work ( what is that bright Yellow thing in the sky, it sure isnt the moon im used to with working nights normally ). There was a big wind storm that knocked out power to about a mile and a half worth of stoplights.
Well, im riding home and get to the first out light and have to wait in line as everyone in line takes turn going. After about 5 minutes I get my turn. I am in the far right lane to go straight and there are 4 lanes of cars going straight and 1 turning right. Well this ***k Weed in the right turn lane that was lets just say under 20 decided he was going to go straight with me and speed up on the shoulder and almost sideswiped me into the car on my left. Then as I speed up so that he could get behind me, we get to the next light. then for the next 3 lights he is about 6 inches from my bikes back tire even while we are doing 35 between lights. Well, he decides to pass me again on the right should at his earliest convenience. almost taggin the right side of my bike.
Now dont get me wrong, I know there are such things as accidents. But there is also such things as assult with a deadly weapon which I consider this little pricks actions. He is just lucky that I wasnt packing, cuz I would have been tempted to pull it out and defend myself. Not one to condone road rage, but I would have considered that self defense.
Mark
Oh and the worst part, like normal New Mexico style, no license plate on the car. Just a faded old unreadable temp tag in the back window.
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Now dont get me wrong, I know there are such things as accidents. But there is also such things as assult with a deadly weapon which I consider this little pricks actions. He is just lucky that I wasnt packing, cuz I would have been tempted to pull it out and defend myself. Not one to condone road rage, but I would have considered that self defense.
Mark
Well GEEEEE, Mark! Looks like you're IN LUCK, now that we know what the 2nd Amendment really means, HUH?!
And sooooooo, if this EVER happens AGAIN, you'll now have TWO CHOICES at your disposal, dude!!!
You will now either have the option of SHOOTING the little F***Weed...OR...MAYBE...allowing the little F***Weed an little extra room to manuever AHEAD of you, and let him go on his merry little way AHEAD of you and not let it evolve into some kind of p*ssing contest! That is once you hopefully realized as soon as you could that the little F***Weed was going to pull that boneheaded maneuver around you, which luckily you appeared to have discovered early enough in this situation.
(BTW...I suggest that you take the SECOND COURSE of action above, EVEN AFTER this recent court ruling, as you could find that the attorney/court costs involved in taking the first course above might be a little draining to your personal finances!...though, you probably would be doing society a major favor if you WOULD take that first course of action mentioned above, alright!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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(bluster-bluster-bluster)
What were we talking about?
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(bluster-bluster-bluster)
What were we talking about?
Well John, we WERE talkin' about "Kill a biker, go to jail" here, but evidently it's segued into "Kill a F***Weed, go to jail!", huh?! 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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 I would have let the kid pass me at his earliest convenience, its just that by the time he about sideswiped me the first time, his front bumber was about even with my right leg, so i just sped up as much as i could. then I had no way to let him around until he decided to finally take the shoulder. Thanks for making me laugh!!! Mark
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The reason that I put this here is that I understand that accidents do happen, however when there is a blatant disregard for another person ( as in the way the ***k Weed ) was acting towards me, if anything had happened to me, I would hope that he would have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law ( however this will only happen if there are witnesses. ) If he had say sideswiped me the second time and thrown me into another car and I had been killed. How do u think he should be punished. I say put the little ****** in jail and throw away the key myself.
Mark
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