man Sal, you just said something that made me realize the progressive company are idiots. I called them and asked what gives with the 2 different looking 412's and they didn't even know one is the heavy duty !!! i didn't either which was why i called them. i was on the phone for 15 min waiting for the girl i was talking to to find out why one looked different. She didn't even know, and i had given her the page with the pic on it ! then when you said this i looked at the bikebandit site again and noticed they have a pic of the 2 types side by side and one says heavy duty ! Geez.....you'd think the ****** company would know thier own products !Anyway, i gave her the part # and told her which shock i wanted in the pic and she said it was the one i wanted which thanks to your post turns out to be the heavy duty. So if she's right, the heavy duty is $182 at maw. The bikebandit site shows a cost of $261.33 but doesn't show different prices for regular or HD, so i don't know whether they're the same price or what. This is all getting so confusing i believe i will probably just go with the 440's anyway !