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No Eddy they showed many more pictures on the TV broadcast. The bathroom flooding is only 1 of many problems with that building. I never meant to knock the military or the country I love and am proud to be a citizen of. Just that that building should not have been housing anyone. There are sewage lines that come up into living quarters that have tissue stuffed in them to keep sewage gases out among other problems. Hardships are fine and to be expected in the field but not at Ft Bragg. Thats state side and should at the very least be livable. I am happy the service men here say it's the exception rather than the rule but in my opinion it shouldn't be at all in the US borders , just as Walter Reed shouldn't have been in the condition it was in either.




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One thing that many uninitiated non former miltary people dont comprehend about the Military is this.....

All the branches of the service are huge bureacratic machines that do there best to operate by the book so to speak. Every action and task in the military from minor to major is governed by bureacracy that is all encompassing and deeper than the darkest well. This is not as I see it a good thing because the paperwork and details needed at times to get something accomplished are ridiculous. But it seems based on history , tradition and based on the need to keep good order and discipline that no one has ever figured out how to streamline chains of command. As all of us know who have served the greater good of the many outweighs the needs of the few and its not our business to question how things are done or get done.

Having been in the military I know this in detail and having worked in govt contracting supplying parts to Naval support facilities I see them suffering from the same broken bureacracy failings that slow processes, create mistakes where none exist and maintain jobs for govt employees.

As much as I appreciate the US military the same bureacracy can exist within it. Bureacracy makes the system break down in small locales at times.

The US army is one large Green Machine. For anyone to think it will operate fully flawlessly at all levels of detail all the time is a mistake

Stuff happens as it does everywhere and there is no reason to assume that perfection exists just because its the US Army and runs on discipline and good order.

Even the US Marines screw up and have "problems"

I beleive this issue was nothing more than a bureacracy failure and is a rare exception as I have stated.

I am not sure we are hearing the entire story anyway. We are hearing what CNN wanted us to here so that some young correspondent can make a name for himself with cheap sensationalism.

The whole detailed story is not being told. For instance all that one soldier living in that barrack would need to do is walk over to the Post IG office and ask some questions and action most certainly would be forthcoming as a result of that.

And Ian no one was ascribing any lack of patriotism or concern on your part.

Granted I would not have considered this item post worthy but thats because I have experience with and fully understand the depth and or lack of depth associated with it.

Here is what will happen as a result of this story. Perhaps a little faster than had it not been sensationalized.

A senior NCO or an officer somewhere in the chain of command that falls within the bueracratic chain of responsibility for that barrack will be discipled and their military career will be ended for the purpose of promotion.

It might even be a sacrificial lamb who really is not responsible or did not drop the ball directly but happens to be in the wrong locale at the wrong time.

Someone senior to that lamb will have his career go on uneventfully.

Thats the way the military works.

"Proud to be an Infidel" ... "100% pure American Jingoist"