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Anyone have a chain breaker tool thingie I can borrow for a couple weeks? Happy to pay shipping. After I get my forks and bars back together, a new chain is next on my list. Rather not shell out 100 bucks for a tool I'll only use once.
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Go buy a 3 in. cut off wheel if you have a Die Grinder or a good drill they are alot faster than a chain breaker. I cut Pauls chain off in just a few short minutes with one..
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I'm more worried about putting the new one on than taking the old one off, so I guess I need a chain riveter? I have a bicycle one but I doubt it will work  I have an angle grinder, so taking off the old one is no problemo.
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The new chain will have a master link,there will be the link ,4 o-rings,plate and a clip that holds the link in place.Just make sure you have enough slack in the new chain so the new link will hook up...
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why didnt he use the one i sent him??? im hurt!!!
we should do this every weekend!
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Haha Thanks guys. I haven't even purchased a chain yet... So at least now I'm prepared for anything!
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Just put a new chain and sprockets on my bike Fri. night. I tried to use the riveting tool. Too much trouble for me. I ended up doing the old fashion way, one side against something metal and the other side was introduced to a hammer.  Worked out great!
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why didnt he use the one i sent him??? im hurt!!!
After we finally figured out how to put it together, it wouldn't stay on the pin, so the drill was easier. Donny would have to spill the beans. I was not going to say anything so we wouldn't hurt your delicate feelings. grave. 
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Make sure you get that clip facing in the right direction.
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It is. FastEddy told me that when I bought the chain from him. That sucker is tight... Ask Donny, he did most of the work. I paid him off in Beer and Pizza.  It sure helps having 2 people to get the rear wheel in the right position. Uh oh... this is dangeruolsy close to being Misc. tech.  shhhhh.
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Good point.... Since the trade part is all set, I think I'll move it.
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Just put a new chain and sprockets on my bike Fri. night. I tried to use the riveting tool. Too much trouble for me. I ended up doing the old fashion way, one side against something metal and the other side was introduced to a hammer. Worked out great!
.....ouch!.....the riveting tool's instructions were a little vague, but the tool itself is very easy to use.....I wouldn't recommend the hammer and anvil method, as the rivet (soft link) is designed to mushroom and the tool is designed to properly mushroom it; the hammer will just mash it....
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still need the tool?
Yota's should be in the mail as we speak. I don't even have the new chain yet!! I do appreciate the several offers I have gotten to borrow a tool. Yota owes me for mental anguish from GA a couple years ago 
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There's a guy down the street who is a 30+ years bike mechanic, who now works out of his home garage. His thoughts: Unless the breaker part is just the right size for the chain at hand, you risk ruining the tool. (There's probably a few more paragraphs & what style tool etc. to that theory.) He recommends a grinder instead. 2nd tip - don't crimp the new rivets too tight, or the master link will have trouble getting around the sprockets. I let him do the crimping.
A little OT - he changed two tires for me, and recommended that after 100 miles, I let the air out, then refill them to let them settle in. He said the bead will remain seated. Never heard that one before, but it seems harmless enough. I didn't have time to do that before my GA / SC trip, but I might one of these days.
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I'll definitely grind the head off that pin before I pop it out.
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the D.I.D. tool pushes the pin out like it was greased. mushrooms the heads nicely too on the new master link. Exact alignment coupled with precise positioning afford even a novice the ability to cut and rivet a new chain into place. Unlike some of the other chain cutters i have seen, that require a bit more diligence when using. Rattle guns allow you to cut the chain then remove the sprockets. otherwise use the old chain to hold them in place. I don't own the DID tool but have ready access to one. I have used it three times. Would have been four but I let Paul install Vera's third chain 13 months ago.
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The letting air out and then re-inflate bit is for tubes and is true. Never heard it for tubeless and don't think it has any effect there. When I install a tube I always inflate and deflate several times when I do it.
I have a DID chain breaker and they work very well, I don't have the riveter though since I have never used a chain that needed one.
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The letting air out and then re-inflate bit is for tubes and is true. When I install a tube I always inflate and deflate several times when I do it.
Never heard of waiting 100 miles to do it. The idea is to get any folds out of the tube so you won't get a hole at a creased spot.
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The DID tool I use had all the components needed to cut and rivet.  The push pin is located inside the tool. Notice the hole at the U's bottom. That is how the connecting pin is allowed to pass. another pic of the tool 
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I have a different breaker made by them. Had mine for a good many years not sure if they still make it or not. Mine grabs the link near the roller and pushes the pin out.
I never heard of doing the inflate and deflate and re-inflate deal to seat the tube after 100 miles either,just at the time I mount it.
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i got the one eddy sells. very nice tool, well built and easy to use. worth every penny
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Ditto on the one from Eddy/RK Tools.
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