come on now, I know all that. Your sarcasm detector is way off...did you think friarjohn thought the idea was classy?

Im saying the nazi stuff is "old hat" cause its all been done. All the MC clubs wore that junk to "pss people off" its all played out. The people wearing that stuff were labeled idiots years ago.

whats ironic is that alot of people will embrace nazi symbolism but wouldnt dare wear "pro-al queda" stuff...its the same thing....in fact that would tick people off more