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#257758 04/23/2008 12:28 PM
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To our overseas friends I have a question...
Have your gas/fuel prices been rising like ours here in the US?

Ive always heard that fuel prices overseas are high and as stated in other threads they seem to be in the (roughly converted to US metrics and prices) $8-$9 dollar per gallon.

For us here in the US the prices have been rising steadily over the last couple years. More so than I can ever remeber.

So again...have your prices been rising and if so what were the prices two years ago compared to your prices today?

this thread is driven purely by curiosity.


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couple of years !!! its every couple of days


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LOL...so your saying its the same there as it is here.


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This shows Canada vs US over history. I would have said that the trend was about the same but it says that since 2002 your gas is up from $1.30/gal to 3.50/gal and ours (converted of course) from 2.60 to 4.50 so the % spread has narrowed quite a lot.

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As a towing operator it really hits me hard. I have no choice but to drive a big truck that does the job I need it to and I am finding it harder and harder to make it profitable.


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couple of years !!! its every couple of days




Considering that the price of oil has gone up almost a dollar a day in the last couple weeks (at LEAST a couple dollars a week!), it's no surprise. It's rather ironic, all of the talking heads were predicting $4 a gallon gas, and now, all of the sudden, there seems to be a mad rush to see who can take top honors to reach it first!!! Looks like our cousins in Kalifornia will hit it first, but we're trying to beat them out here in New England! The race is on....

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Our colonial brothers don't realise just how lucky they are NOT to be living in rip-off Britain where the cost of fuel equates to more than $10 per imperial gallon.


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couple of years !!! its every couple of days




Considering that the price of oil has gone up almost a dollar a day in the last couple weeks (at LEAST a couple dollars a week!), it's no surprise. It's rather ironic, all of the talking heads were predicting $4 a gallon gas, and now, all of the sudden, there seems to be a mad rush to see who can take top honors to reach it first!!! Looks like our cousins in Kalifornia will hit it first, but we're trying to beat them out here in New England! The race is on....





It hit 4 a gallon some time ago in a small coastal town in Northern or Central Ca...


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im paying £1.21p for derv, .at moment there is a poss strike or shutting down ? at a refinery in scotland so people are starting to panick buy up there may come down south.not just derv food espcially rice gone up from £8 to £12 in 2weeks for a 10kg bag and you can only buy 10 per customer at my wholesales they reckon it will keep going up world shortage.

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Our colonial brothers don't realise just how lucky they are NOT to be living in rip-off Britain where the cost of fuel equates to more than $10 per imperial gallon.




Give us time Celt, we're playing catch-up as fast as we can! I'm sure there are those in the oil industry and OPEC who would be glad to oblige us with $10 a gallon gas!!!

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Congratulations Zmilin, I guess you win the Grand Prize. Somebody will be by shortly to break your legs, steal your wallet and pillage you... (we would've thrown in a rapist to rape and pillage you, but gas was too expensive to go pick him up at the local jail...)

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I know here in the US it seems gas has gone up almost every day, in PA anyway. $3.58 a US gal last I saw yesterday for regular it was $3.48 at the same station the day before. I really wish I had some alternative to mid east oil that I could afford to do.


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A problem which is already startingto hit us in the US is that we have been so used to 'affordable' gas that living miles away from work and commuting by personal vehicle has never been much of a consideration. In fact, what it's done is placed us in a position of poor planning and we are WAY behind much of the world in developing and using public transportation in many of the communities. I'm afraid the days of an affordable commute to suburbia is a thing of the past, and many will now look at moving closer in, but that will also be a problem, because EVERYONE will be looking to do the same thing - and in a depressed housing market to boot. It will take years to lay in the infrastructure needed to make the change away from what we have long taken for granted as our 'right' to drive whenever and wherever we want without any thought as to the cost of doing so.

Rising fuel prices will affect every single aspect of our daily lives, and this is simply the beginning of a long, cold night.


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Congratulations Zmilin, I guess you win the Grand Prize. Somebody will be by shortly to break your legs, steal your wallet and pillage you... (we would've thrown in a rapist to rape and pillage you, but gas was too expensive to go pick him up at the local jail...)





No thank you...I got raped yesterday when I filled the SUV.


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Man JB! You sure can be depressing sometimes, ya know!

(and often, exactly correct too!!!)


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I would disagree somewhat on the infrastructure. There is already ample infrastructure that could be readily put into place, such as buses. The problem is, how far will things have to go before they resort to that kind of thing. Granted, the services will have to be expanded, with more things like commuter lots and pickup locations, but it could be done relatively fast, but I just don't think most people are willing to give that up and some people just plain and simple look down on people who ride mass transit(sadly)

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...but I just don't think most people are willing to give that up and some people just plain and simple look down on people who ride mass transit(sadly)




Man oh man, Greg. You certainly nailed THAT ONE, alright!

(in fact, before I retired from puttin' all those people's behinds on airline seats, I'd looked down on a whole lot o' them folks....especially the ones who couldn't seem to understand the concept of BOARDING BY THEIR FRIGGIN' ROW NUMBER!!!)



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To our overseas friends I have a question...
Have your gas/fuel prices been rising like ours here in the US?





Yep and as a consequence, directly or indirectly so has everything else it seems!
For example used to cost around £35 a couple of year ago to fill the tank on the car, now looking at around £55. Other essentials like gas, electric and that combined with poor recent harvests, basic foods have gone up by a similar amount also. And of course on top of that there's the mortgage/ credit crisis to boot, it's not a pretty picture.
Think most of us will be watching the bills and looking at alternatives sooner or later...


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Which states are the cheapest?....it seems like South Jersey is consistantly cheaper than anywhere in the tri-state area (NJ,PA,DE)I think we're $3.05-$3.15 a gallon for regular last time i was at the station (which means nothing cause that was a week ago)

I do live 5 miles from sunoco and mobil refineries, does that matter?

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I do live 5 miles from sunoco and mobil refineries, does that matter?




Not as far as I ever see, Tom. There's a couple of Chevron stations in the city of El Segundo CA and there's a Chevron refinery there.(the second oldest of what was Standard Oil Of California's refineries...hence from what I'm told came the name of the town El Segundo...meaning: "the second one" in spanish, BTW)

And I've found that I can usually find Chevron gasoline CHEAPER 5, 10, 15, 20 miles or more away from the refinery situated right there.

(go figure???!!!)


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Any Surprise?

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And of course on top of that there's the mortgage/ credit crisis to boot




REALLY....I thought the whole mortgage issues was in the states...seems like our lenders went ape nuts for a couple years and now the poops hitting the fan.


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Lewis Black comes to mind here...something about a ball washer.


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we have huge oil deposits up here in the great white north ,tar sands in Alberta, off the coast of Newfieland and apparently off the coast of BC (tree huggers wont let the drilling happen)and we dont get a deal on this oil.$1.25 a ltr right now. effing BS if you ask me . they cartoons are so effing true.
"at moment there is a poss strike or shutting down ? at a refinery in scotland so people are starting to panick buy up there " i talked to my Dad on Sunday ,hes in Glasgow ,he says there was massive queues at all of the gas stations around his area, so long infact he couldnt get in to fill up.

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They already have the bus thing going on here. I live with in commuting distance to NYC and they have park and rides here where you drive to the bus locally then that takes you to the city. I can only hope all the darn city people go home and this area cleans up again, then I wouldn't have to move.


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Even if "public trans." were expanded that would only be a band aid and a very poor one at that. What some people don't
realize that going to work, store or any other travel only makes up a small portion of energy consumption. People also need to get to their customers, stores need to have their goods shiped, factories and plants need power and raw goods delivered, ect. Like Dog said earlier he needs a truck with enough power to do his job and a "smart" car isn't going to cut it. Plants, factories, hospitals, office buildings need lots of power and windmills & sun panels ain't going to cut it either. Until people get off the green junk, conspiracy junk, and the (magic dust, snake oil) alternative souces being here now or with in five years junk the price of fuel and just about every thing else will continue to go up. For the next fifty to one hundred years fossil fuels will be the only effecient(meaning more bang for your buck)power source to supply the world's economies. For every smart butt with their head firmly implanted in it snarky and ignorent comments just only raises the price of fuel 5 or more cents a barrel.


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...For every smart butt with their head firmly implanted in it snarky and ignorent comments just only raises the price of fuel 5 or more cents a barrel.




Oh SURE, khatt!!! Lay this whole darn thing at MY FEET, why don't cha???!!!

(man...can't a brother get a break 'round here???)



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Our colonial brothers don't realise just how lucky they are NOT to be living in rip-off Britain where the cost of fuel equates to more than $10 per imperial gallon.




You know, that is one of the main reasons they forced metrics on you lot, to hide what they intended to do to the price of fuel and other liquids.

In the US, petrol prices have gone into ridiculous mode, but diesel has gone up even faster. I don't understand that because it is easier to make, so it should still be cheaper. Of course, it doesn't help that the tax on diesel fuel is some 30% higher. That doesn't make much sense to me because most diesel burners are critical to the economy, so they should be getting a break instead of the proverbial shaft.


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Speaking about the proposed strike in Scotland my local garage shut the pumps in the early hours of Wednesday Morning after they hiked 10pence onto a litre of 4* so it went from £1-04 to £1-14 in the space of a 12 hours. The traffic has been backed up at all the local garages. Most of which have now closed the pumps.

I really wonder about the common sense of some car drivers by panick buying they have pushed the situation to crisis point. If every body bought petrol as normal we would not see these problems.

I asked the guys in the garage about the price hike and there answer was really quite good "Its the laws of supply and demand. You demand petrol, a scarce resource and we supply the resource. You the customer will pay whatever the market dictates. Currently the market is driving a higher price." The only thing missing was a stripey shirt and a mask from the robbing bassas.

The most worrying conerning and disturbing point is if the strike does go ahead and we do have petrol shortages as predicted will I be able to get to DENT .... see if they screw up my Dent weekend I swear to god I will do damgae to the first petrol exec I ever meet.


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In Kiwiland lastnite the price of super went over $2.00NZD a ltr... With a bit of converting this worked out to about $6.10US a US gallon... won't be long now and it'll cost me $30.00 to fill my bike...


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I think for the U.S. there are other factors that contribute to it. Yes, it has gone up a lot but also remember the $ is weaker than ever in its history. Simply stated, it takes more $s to buy the stuff.

It is also very clear to Mexico and Canada that we have no will to exploit our own oil. That being the case they can push oil prices just as high as they want. No, I didn't get confused, most of our oil does not come from the middle east.


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And of course on top of that there's the mortgage/ credit crisis to boot




REALLY....I thought the whole mortgage issues was in the states...seems like our lenders went ape nuts for a couple years and now the poops hitting the fan.




Oh, no, the Subprime mess has spread almost globally, because overseas banks like UBS (Union Bank of Switzerland) and Royal Bank of Scotland were heavily invested in the US real estate market. UBS posted a loss in the neighborhood of $11-14 BILLION within the last 2-3 weeks, which is unheard of for a Swiss bank due to their normally very conservative investment practices. Needless to say, it did NOT go over well when the news came out.

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I think for the U.S. there are other factors that contribute to it. Yes, it has gone up a lot but also remember the $ is weaker than ever in its history. Simply stated, it takes more $s to buy the stuff.





I humbly disagree. Oil is traded in US $ so the strength of the $ makes no difference as there is no exchange rate involved.


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It is also very clear to Mexico and Canada that we have no will to exploit our own oil. ... No, I didn't get confused, most of our oil does not come from the middle east.




Interesting info.


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12 cents a gallon in Venezuela - if you really WANT to live in Venezuela...

http://en.ce.cn/subject/EnergyCrisis/ECworld/200605/12/t20060512_6934874.shtml


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Here in TX where we pump the texas tea it is sooooo high I had to take out a loan and mortgage the house just to mow the lawn!!

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Here in TX where we pump the texas tea it is sooooo high I had to take out a loan and mortgage the house just to mow the lawn!!




You think you have problems! My lawnmower is a 56 HP John Deere and it takes a full day to mow half the yard!


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