I owned a couple older Triumphs back when Eisenhower was a sargent. I liked the way they handled (like crap), but they rode fast on dirt flat tracks and at highway speed. I also had an orange & white BSA 650 Lightning that I preferred in the twisties to the Triumphs. I've also owned three Harley Davidsons. I wouldn't hit a dog in the @$$ with a Harley.