I had a set of those black flame jobs on my bike for a while. My only complaint was that the straps (held down with velcro) would always start flapping above 75 MPH.Very little issues with water getting in them except during driving rain or monsoons. They actually saved me a lot of skin when I laid it down and slid into the rear bumper of a Dodge pickup! They survived with only blown out stitches and minor scuffing on the bottom edge. Now I have the leather covered hardbags that Brent sells. I love the look, but they are not the highest quality that i've ever seen.
