BTW...when I first put the Bub's on I thought they were too loud but now that I'm used to them I wouldn't have it any other way. I just went on a 250 mile ride with on both windy rodes and the freeway and they rocked. I was riding with a bunch of bigger cruisers -- Harley's, a Victory, and a huge Yamaha and I held me own! The're deep sounding at idle but at high speed settle town to kind of a quiter crisp roar.
