Whatever the stock pads are, they seemed to me to be harder than the organics, IMHO. To the day I replaced the organics with the HH, they seemed to have more "give" or compression than even the stock pads did. Switching to the HH pads from the Organics was a night and day difference with regards to my confidence in the brakes, and they don't dust even half as much as the organics did.
