Soren, I am not a socialist. But it is interesting that you and others do not recognize how many "socialistic" programs have made life livable here in this great country. Know anyone who has a "college pell grant'? They're a socialist. Ever used a public library? You're a socialist. Ever been given any help for disaster relief? You're a socialist. Know anybody who has been down on their luck and gotten food stamps? Socialism. Unemployment insurance? Socialism. I could go on for hours. I've worked hard all my life, never collected welfare and make a good life for me and my family, mostly because I am smart and frugal. I live in a new house, which my friend and family envy, because I built it myself. I have numerous antique autos and cars because I bought them as junk and fixed them myself. In short, I have lived the american dream because of hard work, thrift and honesty, and the help of a great family. But I also feel for the people who have not been as fortunate as I am. Sometimes the "little" people get what they deserve because of what they do, sometimes it is because of just plain old dumb luck. I am reminded of a famous senator who ran for president a few years ago, who was educated on the GI bill after his honorable years in the service (another socialistic program). He was integral in squashing the National health care plan then proposed. How very typical of certain politicians. After they climb the ladder given to them by generous American programs, they want to pull the ladder up after them.
IN ClOSING, I wish all of you critics of "socialistic" programs good health. I have enjoyed the debate, but I have probably said enough. I hope that I have made some of you think a little bit. Thanks again for this polite debate and honest, intelligent dicussion!


Fidelis et Fortis