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Thanks for all the responses, you're a helpful bunch. The increase in thickness of the pillion seat has been mentioned, have triumph increased the thickness of the foam in the front of the pillion and if they have, roughly by how much? Also have they changed the seat pan? The reason I'm asking is the Utopia backrest for the driver goes in the rear seat and I don't want the fitting buried in the foam. As they make their stuff for the TBA up as a special order, I would imagine they could alter it without a problem.



My wife rides with me a lot and we tested both. The short one may look a bit better, but hands down, the tall one is much more comfortable for the rider. This is especially true with the new pillion. I had the original pillion and changed to the new one for more rider comfort. It is not bigger or taller in the front. It is actually narrower in the front, but wider and thicker in the back raising the person up about an inch.

I also agree that the taller one works better for sissy bar bags and backrest bags. I use both when traveling solo.

Bob 2005 America, 904cc - sold. 2014 Trophy SE.