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F. Your Tank Bag:

it looks like a fanny pack...haha

I actually have a fanny pack for hot days that is held together with velcro, pull the front down and there is my 9.

I would rather have a sword !!
I wouldnt stand a chanse against fire arms...but, I would go out in style.

Wow...that would go over GREAT here in MA!

too right. guns are too unatached. up close and personal is the way it should be. any fool can shoot someone and run away.ah but usin a sword or axe for that matter.....beginin to frighten meself now

I like a mace myself, makes short work of shields and armour.

If I had access to a gun while riding I'd way too tempted to use it. For example, the douchebag that got over into my lane this morning going south on 95 might have seen it. He had no problem returning my one finger salute but sped away when I pulled over so we could talk about it.

Shirt or jacket with a built in holster, only way to go.

An ankle holster during the summer and shoulder during the winter....and no need to have a fanny pack or other such garbage. My 2 cents.

I use it when I have shorts and no shirt but still want to be armed.I go places where it's best to be armed.

stay out gay bars

come here and say that

Now boys...

why would you need to be armed to go to a gay bar?

why do you need to be armed
arn.t the police competent enough in your country
gun culture is not a good thing
thats why there's so much crime in the USA
our mentality is if you own a gun its for sport not protection
we can walk out at all hours with no threat of being mugged
last murder in gibraltar was about 12 years ago
peace love to you all and put your guns away theres no threat of terror the only terror are yourselves

It is a bit easy to say that when you live where there hasnt been a murder in 12 years. Me and Ian (dogg33) live relatively close to the city of philadelphia (i work there)which is nowhere near the worst city in the US and heres the crime statistics

Like many American cities, Philadelphia saw a gradual yet pronounced rise in crime in the years following World War II. Murders peaked in 1990 at 525, for a rate of 31.5 per 100,000. There were an average of about 400 murders a year for most of the 1990s. The murder count dropped in 2002 to 288, then surged four years later to 406.[49] Out of the ten most populous cities in the United States in 2006, Philadelphia had the highest homicide rate at 28 per 100,000 people, and is on pace for a significantly worse year in 2007.[50]

In 2004, there were 5,513.5 crimes per 100,000 people in Philadelphia.[51] In 2005, Philadelphia was ranked by Morgan Quitno as the sixth-most dangerous among 32 American cities with populations over 500,000. Among its neighboring Mid-Atlantic cities in the same population group, Baltimore and Washington, D.C. were ranked second- and third-most dangerous cities in the United States, respectively, and Camden, New Jersey, a suburb across the Delaware River from Philadelphia, was ranked as the most dangerous city in the United States.[52]

In 2006, Camden was the fifth-most dangerous city in the country, lower than its 2004 ranking, but still high for a city its size, while Philadelphia was ranked 29th.[53]

On September 12, 2007, police commissioner Sylvester Johnson called on 10,000 African American men to patrol the streets to lessen crime. Johnson, who is black, set up "Call to Action: 10,000 Men, It's a New Day" in response to the city's disproportionate homicide rate of young African Americans. Dennis Muhammad, Nation of Islam official, and Mayor John F. Street supported the project. The program was to begin on October 21.[54] The call was seen as a response to a widespread refusal by many African-Americans in Philadelphia to cooperate in police investigations.

I myself dont carry a gun, but there are reasons to be prepared. Theres never an easy solution in this debate.

Melvin fails to mention Gibraltar is tiny only a few square miles, and is home to about 27,000 people.....

It's the size of my home town; which incidently hasn't had a murder in quite some time either!

whooaa jease?....ahahah...three phrases come to mind

the cats out of the bag

there goes the neighborhood

people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones

nuthin, tells me to shut up.
erm, i thought america was spreading democracy, freedom of speech, and human rights.
thats the perfect way to spread your ways man, when you don't want to hear others say their peace very facist way reminds me of the old spain ruled by a facist franco
saying that he is right there is one way in and one way out we all know each other and we have most people working that accounts for a lot
by the way this rock is 3 miles long by 2 miles wide
nuthins back yard is most probably larger than this town
we do get crime but its mostly burglaries very little violent stuff
we get bar brawls being a naval base town
i lived in the UK for 17 years (to cold) and it is more crime ridden there i suppose its all relative like insest LOL
oh and in british gibraltar law the police are here to protect and serve
that includes individuals and the masses obviously USA have different ways to europe
even though european countries do have a lot of different laws which vary from country to country but the worse for bikers are the anti biking laws they try to and succeed to an extent they are the EURO CR-P laws those eec directives will kill biking for good if we are not careful

one more thing i worked as a civy armourer in the ministry of defence for 20 years so i have done some shooting
mostly SA80 some GPMG and 9mm belgian and canadian pistols
just general british army stuff
thought my comments would spark some responses lol
still say PEACE MAN

Having the right to say something doesn't mean people want to hear what you have to say....

Simply put- a couple guys are discussing ways to carry while riding (somehthing that is perfectly legal to do in many states here), and you come in attacking them and in turn call the rest of the US a bunch of terrorists. You attack somebody unprovoked and it ****** me off. Mind your own [Email]d@mn[/Email] business, and I'll mind mine.

Thats the beauty of free speech, Melvin, he has the right to tell you to shut the ***** up.

melvin, your initial post was nothing short of Internet Trollism

Do you really wonder why you were told to ****** off?

Good on you Phil. Show this bum the door.

Last time I heard there were 6 guns per capita in Montana. I only have one but I know people who have more than enough to compensate for my statistical anomaly. Low population per square mile notwithstanding, Montana is a very polite place.

Melvin has behaved himself for quite awhile now, if I recall correctly. It was only a matter of time before he shot off his mouth again...

I found this a good read, very interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States

Oh yeh, somebody set fire to the bins outside the Spar shop last night, Warrington's going down the nick!

Now.....back to arguing about gay bars and fanny packs...haha

member Yota, "guns don't kill ppl. hydraulic shock,inertia & kenetic energy does"
(Dang Yota, that still brings a tear to my eye. )


Don't know about much but i do know that popping a cap is a lot more betterer than using a frog gig. So keep your bury your head in the sand attitude over there and I'll keep my warm hand round my warm gun over here. Happiness is a warm gun. Saturday night specials are easy to conceal. When riding one needs to have ready access. Thus a shoulder harness is sweet. The idea is to have the weapon on your person, not stowed away on the sickle.

For I ferget, some words from the deep south: If you ever make it to this land of freedom let it be known that we southern boys are indeed in the vain of Trace Adkins, fairly dangerous men.

Gosh now where did I put my shovel...

I remember reading a story (probably 20 years ago) about two towns of similar size and very similar crime statistics passing new gun laws. The first town was located in New York and they banned all fire arms within the city limits. The second town was located in Texas, and they made it legal for all adult residence to carry (concealed) a gun at all times. The crime rate for the town in NY went up over a 3 year period by more than 200%, while the town in Texas the crime rate went down to almost zero.

Now I don't know if this story was really true, because I don't remember the source, but I always found it to be interesting.

Tom

I haven't verified these figures, but let's not let something like the TRUTH interfere with a good joke....

Doctors
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is
700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians
per year are
120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician
is
0.171.
Statistics courtesy of U.S.Dept of
Health Human Services.

Now think about this:
Guns
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is
80,000,000.
(Yes, that's 80 million)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths
per year, all age groups,
is
1,500.

(C) The number of accidental deaths
per gun owner is
.000188.
Statistics courtesy of FBI
;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So, statistically, doctors are approximately
9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'


FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT
ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

yep friar i have been good for a while and i do accept the gun culture that america enjoys
just not my thing yet i did not insult nuthin and if he has that right to say that to me then i have the same right to attack back
i have nothing against the yanks we are supposed to be alies and i have served loads of NATO personal whilst my time in the ministry of defence mostly UK troops but loads of good people from the USA and after work had some RnR with them in the local bars
my wife is canadian and my cuz married to a US navy chap and lives in florida now like i said no problem with anyone be it colour religion or sexual preferance but i find the gun culture thing you guys have in the USA a bit much
here if we shoot someone cos they break in to our property we are the ones liable
remember that british farmer he went to prison
suppose its the way we are all educated different strokes and all that
its just not very pleasant that law that says right to bear arms to me just gives someone an excuse
and hey i'm not scared of bullets they have done no harm to me
i'm scared at the speed those bullets come at me and my bonnie even with turbo and nitros cannot out run the ****** things lol
hey lads our culture on that subject is different
at least i got you guys talking again even if we went of subject a little
i think this should be the end of this one ok
remember keep your front end high and your rear end smokin

That's okay, Melvin. We Yanks understand how you feel. There's no need to explain.

But what you don't understand about some of us Yanks is that EVIDENTLY some of us live, work or play in such crime-ridden environs that something like this very handy-dandy fanny pack would come in real handy.

(not me thankfully, even though I reside just a stones throw from South-Central L.A.)

You see, some of us Yanks EVIDENTLY live daily in mortal FEAR of our person(because as I said above, they EVIDENTLY live, work or play in such a high crime area that they feel the need to carry their piece with 'em whereever they may venture during the day.(or night)

But THANKFULLY, as I also said above, even though I live a stones throw away from SOUTH-CENTRAL LOS ANGELES, I have never felt this emotion of FEAR to such an extent that I feel I must carry MY handgun(a S&W snub-nosed .38 that my father left me, BTW) with me whereever I go.(gee...I must be an anomally around here, huh?!)

And so, I must say that I(and I assume you feel the same way here after reading your postings on this thread) feel that it just must be TERRIBLE to have to live with this much FEAR on a daily basis for some of my fellow Yanks who would feel the neccessity to purchase this fine product that this thread is about, huh?!

And so, I ask you to please have a little emphathy for some of my fellow Yanks here who must EVIDENTLY live, work or play in these terrible crime-ridden areas...OKAY???!!!



(BTW Melvin, I have to admit that I NEVER use any ATM in South-Central L.A. after dusk however...that's one of MY methods of staying alive around here)