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Well what do you expect. He test rode a Black TBA.  I always take these reviews with a pinch of salt. Some of what he says holds an ounce of truth, some of it is way off the mark.
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It wasn't terrible, more like brutally honest.....
How many of us haven't followed his suggestions by changing pipes and tweaking carbs? How many of us have altered the riding position by adding pegs,floorboards, risers, bars, etc?
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Bedouin, I guess it should have read that after riding through every country in Europe on a single trip, you feel ready to go again.  Soren
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This guy traded in his menstrual cycle for a motor cycle. Still, he is what he is. 
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I sometimes wonder how many of these reviewers go into a test not wanting to like something ... 
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at first glance that website seems to be dedicated to sport bikes... 20% rated for brakes? funny cause I happen to think the brakes are pretty ****** good. Today I had to do an emergency stop and well, I'm extremely happy with the brake system.
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"is thayut a Tray-umph? Well ah had muhself a one o’ those in thuh seventies… shure is better than suhm jap crap, uh boy?" There’s no doubt the good ol’ boys remember Triumph and what the marque meant to them.
After this point any comment he could have made valid or not was totally discounted by me. Resorting to stereotypical thrashing isn't a review, it just disguises his inability to be objective; just goes to show they sent a boy to do a man's work.
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I like where he says it just won't go. Compare it to a bike twice it's size in it's class and it still goes! I think he went into it not liking it and looking for crotch rocket performance.
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he was really dry humping ducati in that review for some reason.
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There are other, more favourable, reviews on that site. http://www.visordown.com/review/brandPro...698991332713458I have to say that I don't completely disagree with the reviewer but I also don't think he 'gets' cruisers; you either do or you don't. You don't buy a cruiser (or any of the Triumph twin range) for the numbers, you buy them for the way they make you feel and if you don't feel it, they'll make no sense to you. Perhaps we should put our own reviews on there. 
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It's obvious he didn't really ride the bike, just looked at one and read the specs, then guessed.
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Just reread it and it does seem he never rode it. To say the single front disc needs a 4 finger squeeze is just stupid. Squeeze it hard and the wheel locks and down you go. I think you should use 4 fingers anyway but that isn't what he meant.
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Wow. Wait till he reviews the 08... All I can say is the Bonneville America in all its iterations is still a well kept secret.  Read my review.
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"Lumpy, misshapen twin cylindermotor", What a dork.  It's obvious that he has no use for cruisers at all. I'd like to meet him to give him some crap!
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Wow. Wait till he reviews the 08...
All I can say is the Bonneville America in all its iterations is still a well kept secret.
Read my review.
Nice review... couldn't agree more! 
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This guy has no freakin' clue....... 
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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Who even cares? Do YOU like YOUR bike? Any regrets? That's all that matters.
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I like mine just fine. I do occasionally wonder what my bike would be like if Triumph had made them with the same twin power plant but simply as big as they could make them and still just be air cooled.
Like say 1200 CC perhaps.
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Whut sorta horsepower dus it make?" one was keen to know. “Er, not many.†The answer’s a claimed 61bhp, but the truth – and this was a tough one to get across to him – is that the Bonnie America looks the part alright, but is so safe, strangled and soul-less that it leaves you devoid of any riding impression, even after only five minutes off the bike.
This dude is way off base on this review and trying to make the America look like some sort of unrefined hillbilly-cycle.
We know the America is a CRUISER and (as everyone but him knows) Triumph actually advertises it's horsepower while the other Cruiser's don't. He could have said that considering the size of it's engine, it makes more Horses than almost anything in it's class (and even above it's class).
Our bikes have a LOT of soul and mine leaves me with a smile every time I ride. I don't think this guy ever rode one.
It seems as though he is looking for the comfort of a Goldwing, Performance of a Rocket III, and the handling of a Ducati in a mid-size Cruiser.
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Bedouin, I guess it should have read that after riding through every country in Europe on a single trip, you feel ready to go again.
Soren
Exactly .
Without writing a lengthy review I would say that you can do almost anything (bar touring the Sahara) on this machine.
The only "fault" I can find with this bike is that it's not feasable to achieve and sustain high highway speeds comfortably (90-100 mph and +), especially two-up with baggage.
Also, I don't like windshields (on a cruiser) and don't use one which may make a significant difference.
Other than the abovementioned "fault", I would say this bike "plays" everywhere, either for day-to-day use or for low to mid-speed touring purposes.
For example, our bikes (and corresponding speeds/power-curves) are IDEAL for secondary West European roads and some of the not-so-perfect roads (highways) of Eastern Europe, to include the Baltic and the Balkan countries, where, at best, their highways resemble Western European secondary roads and at worst are almost off-road adventures (I am not exaggerating).
If one where to include high-speed highway comfort/performance, I would think that Clanrickarde's suggestion of a 1200cc would be a better balance, provided there wasn't a significant weight overhead, of course.
Anyhow, I've ridden many bikes on long distances which were a heck of lot worse.
I also did an Iron-Butt run with it after the EuroRally in '06, from Assendorf in north Germany to Pescara and back to Ancona in Italy (1800 km) with a broken leg (extremely swollen ankle and boot unlaced) and hobbling for some of the time on a walking stick ... and survived just fine.
I am not sure I would have been as comfortable on my RT BMW, under the circumstances.
I owe this bike.
So, I think this idiot needs his a$$ kicked around for the duration of his 45 minute limit (as he mentions).
Bedouin.
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The first time I rode one I loved it so the only review that matters to me is my own. I love my bike and don't really care what naysayers think. Although I enjoy positive reviews they don't sway my opinion either.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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After this point any comment he could have made valid or not was totally discounted by me. Resorting to stereotypical thrashing isn't a review, it just disguises his inability to be objective; just goes to show they sent a boy to do a man's work.
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The only "fault" I can find with this bike is that it's not feasable to achieve and sustain high highway speeds comfortably (90-100 mph and +), especially two-up with baggage.
I would beg to differ. Riding two up I am not allowed to ride fast. Riding solo, I rolled 843 miles in 10 hours 50 minutes. Thats 77.84 average mph. The time spent actually rolling was at 90 to 95 mph.
Cinnamon Girl as she was configured for her endurance roll.
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"Lighten up, Francis."
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HA! We need to find a way to ride together. I have the same riding "style." 
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Sorry, to clarify, but by high cruising speeds I was thinking in terms of 90-100 mph and over to say 125 mph (easily sustainable by bigger touring and other bikes) which is why I mentioned "it's not feasable to ACHIEVE and sustain high highway speeds".
My rolling speeds on the Speedy are similar to yours (80 to 95mph), but I don't consider these high, by any means (in comparison, of course).
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Thats 77.84 average mph. The time spent actually rolling was at 90 to 95 mph.
Amazing how those few minutes stopped for gas can bugger the average speed
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If I was to get on a GSX-R, I'd write a shite review. On the grounds that it's not my style of bike. I know some people who have GSX-R's and they are happy with them, and don't understand why I have an America.
I've read TWO (the mag associated with that site) and it's very sports bike biased. They are not really gonna like them, whereas they'll love something plastic....
[edit]ok I had a further look around the site and look at the Bonneville America 2007 review....it got 4/5 and they liked it.... Don't make no sense!!![/edit]
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03 America - Pretty stock - except the TBS wheel... 
06 America - missing, presumed in bits. With it's TBS wheel... 
09 America - It's very blue....
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i have an FJR sport-tourer, and a very beautiful blue and white america,, if one had to go,,it would NOT be my bonneville!!! i beleive also that mary kashdragon had similar thoughts, she's an ex-owner of a FJR,,STILL RIDES TRIUMPH!! nowwwww,,,, who really gives a rat's rectum what that jerk thinks,,, it's not his money,,IT'S OUR'S!!!
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I must admit there are days when I prefer to take out my T595 in preference over my speedmaster mainly because the weather is not too good and I don't want to get asked stupid questions from bystanders like "is that a harley?"
Otherwise out of all the bikes i've ever owned my speedmaster is probably the most comfortable and easy to live with bike bar none.
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Man, you guys are making me misty.
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I would expect nothing else from anything related to TWO magazine or the Visordown website.
Have you read the Visordown forum ??? Sportsbike is king, off-roaders are the second choice.....nothing else exists.
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It wasn't terrible, more like brutally honest.....
How many of us haven't followed his suggestions by changing pipes and tweaking carbs? How many of us have altered the riding position by adding pegs,floorboards, risers, bars, etc?
I would never do any of that except buy two sets of pipes, a corbin seat with backrest, and two sets of risers. Nah, not me, never....
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I kind of agree with the review. But the bike is what you make of it. I have made mine very comfortable. I don't do 80mphs for extended periods of time and I don't buy all of the chrome bits that Triumph offers. But if you spend twice the amount on a harley you are getting the same bike. That is what they fail to mention. Have you ever really been on a bike that didn't give you a back ache.
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Seems to me changing stuff to make it yours is part of the whole cruiser experience. To me it wouldn't be as much fun if I didn't change stuff. I was happy with my bike the way it was when I bought it, I didn't need more power or speed the riding position, while not what I would choose, was OK and didn't bother me. Only bike I ever had that I didn't change stuff on is my BMW and that isn't 100% true. I spent time putting it back to stock and replacing worn out stuff. It is the most uncomfortable bike I ever had too it makes my butt sore on long rides. Must be something about they shape of the seat. I often ride 80 MPH+ for very long distances,like from here to Laconia when I first bought it. Driving rain on the way up and brutal sun on the way back, bike was wonderful and never skipped a beat, ran triple digits many times on that ride. I ride up through Conn. and NY and back from here on a ride regularly so I disagree with most of it.
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