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And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens .




Thats exactly right but in 1790 that was the first naturalization attempt. (law) A citizen qualified by (law) is not considered natural born for the presidency.

The 14th amendment watered that down and confused it even more. Most don't think about the presidency in these issues because that represents a few people in the history of our nation.

I know full well that when U.S. parents have a baby that baby is a citizen. That citizen must be born on U.S. soil though. The only thing to make it not a natural born citizen by (law) would be an amendment. You certainly can't write a law to say you are not a citizen by law

I thought this would be an interesting thread.

The U.S. military can think about the bases being U.S. soil all they want but that just ain't so.

The President of the United States and the Justice Dept. argued to the Supreme Court that GITMO is not U.S. soil and is not under the jurisdiction of U.S. laws.

The supreme court disagreed and the Dept of justice and the president feel so strongly about it that they have not complied with the order of the court. However the Supreme Court said it is subject to our laws but never said it is U.S. soil. We all know the soil belongs to the country we are in. They can tell us to leave any time as we are not an occupying force.

That gives me an idea for another thread. If the Supreme Court rules against the president and the Dept. of Justice and he says "kiss my patooty" who enforces it. Maybe the guy with the biggest stick makes the law. That being the case GITMO is not subject to U.S. law = Panama is not U.S. soil.



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