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Re: Best Brit Group ?
The_Dog33 #234739 01/26/2008 12:12 AM
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Genesis, The Who, Pink Floyd, AC/DC (they count! Angus and Malcolm were born in Scotland, that's GREAT Britain right?)


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So many, so many....besides early Zep, Cream, Stones, & Beatles:

The Who!
Also, Humble Pie, the Yardbirds, anything Jeff Beck, The Small Faces, Dave Clark 5, The Pretty Things (way under appreciated), Pink Floyd (but mainly with Syd Barrett), Free, The Creation, early Mayall, early King Crimson, Dr. Feelgood, The Inmates, The Shadows, early Fleetwood Mac (Peter Green), Incredible String Band, Pink Fairies, Procol Harum, Twink, July, Apple...Kinks & Animals, too. Dusty Springfield, not a group, but still...

Spooky Tooth's "Spooky Two" album was brilliant as well as their version of I Am the Walrus.
Taste (Rory Gallagher) and Them, but they'd be Irish.

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I thought AC/DC was Aussie too.


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" AC/DC (they count! Angus and Malcolm were born in Scotland, that's GREAT Britain right?) " and dont forget Bon Scott, he wis Scottish too.

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Dire Straits, The Police, Depeche Mode, David Bowie, Queen, Pink Floyd, Take That Jerry & The Pacemakers, The Beatles

SPeaking of The Beatles, this band looks good to watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyCK0a3XbMo

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Genisis, The Pretenders, The Police, Yes and Emerson,Lake & Palmer. The first and last were my favorites back in HS.


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Okay nobody's gonna chime in, I'll have to represent.
The scale is kinda tilted over here, this is the heavy side.

Black Sabbath
Iron Maiden
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They were all great, depending on your attitude at the time.

I don't think I saw Uriah Heep or Black Sabbath or 10cc or Herman's Hermits or Jethro Tull mentioned yet...


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BrianT #234749 01/26/2008 3:04 AM
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I would like to add to that list BrianT

    Judas Priest
    My Dying Bride
    Diamond Head
    Carcass
    Dragonforce
    Paradise Lost
    Napalm Death
    Saxon
    Samson


Not all equaly good, but they are all british

now, does ac/dc count? James Cook and all I mean...


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dahla #234750 01/26/2008 3:36 AM
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The Beatles are WAY overrated. Essentially the n'sync of there time with some good marketing. There early stuff was pretty much pop crap. Fortunately they all grew out of that and did put together some good music. As musical talent goes good but not great IMHO. Versatility does not necessarily mean good. Like I said, they did go on to put some good music together, unfortunately that part of their careers didn't last long enough.

Without a doubt my favorite Brit band is The Who

Lots of other music out there, almost too many to name. Thank goodness all those little isles over there generated a great group of musically talented people. Next week I am going to see the Wolfe Tones at Gaelic park here in Chi'town. I know, Irish, but I was adressing all those islands over there.

Best album - Quadrophenia. Unfortunately I seemed to identify more with the main mod character there but have always been into the motorcycle side of things. Different culture different time I guess.


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...Just makes you realise that most of us on this site have lived through a golden age of music.


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I see no one mentioned The Moody Blues or one of my faves
Mott The Hoople.

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The Beatles are WAY overrated. Essentially the n'sync of there time with some good marketing. There early stuff was pretty much pop crap.




You'd be hard pressed to find a single modern recording that didn't learn from Rubber Soul and Revolver. Just as Les Paul revolutionized recording with multiple tracks, George Martin and The Beatles pretty much defined the art of overdubbing and mastering. Hard to overate that. As far as pop "crap"...there's never been another act with 5 singles in the top ten, ever. That, my friend, is pop history.


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As names like Blind Faith, Yard Birds, and Cream and countless other successful British bands and performers came drifting by in my occasionally lucid mind, I began to realize that there was an underlying connection to these as well as just about every Brit band that achieved any real and lasting success or notoriety. I then recognized the same similarity holds true for American bands. I then rationalized that perhaps there are no great Brit or great American rock groups, and that there is only one true music greatness. That one true and undeniable greatness – that solitary link, that connecting thread, perhaps the DNA of rock music - The genetic link that connects rock music -Brit or American - to all other music life forms, past, present and future is none other than Eric Clapton.


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Can't argue with that. Once in an interview he made some humble comment about lifting his work from BB, Freddie & Albert King and T-Bone Walker. And yet he remains the premier soloist of his time. BTW, I have an "EC is God" tee given to me by the way under appreciated Ray Kennedy (such are the perks of guitar roadies, free tees).


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Birmingham UK's music connections.......covers so many groups mentioned in this thread.

As Pipedr says - the DNA.....

Dexy's Midnight Runners (Kevin Rowland and most other members)

Christine Perfect (Fleetwood Mac)

Judas Priest

Joan Armatrading - St Kitts born and Handsworth raised singer/songwriter.

Astro - Reggae toaster for 'UB40'

Martin Barre - Electric & Acoustic Guitar and Flute Barriemore Barlow, Drummer. Dave Pegg and Jonathan Noyce, Bass Guitar all played for 'Jethro Tull'

Bev Bevan - drummer for 'Denny Laine and The Diplomats', 'Carl Wayne and the Vikings', 'The Move' and E.L.O.

John Bonham - drummer for various mid sixties Brum bands including 'Band Of Joy' and 'Led Zeppelin'

Ali Campbell - singer/songwriter for 'UB40'

John Carter - fronted 'Carter-Lewis And The Southerners' with a young Jimmy Page as well as founding 'The Flower Pot Men' and 'The Ivy League'

Dave 'Clem' Clempson - Tamworth born, Clempson played in many Birmingham bands. Clem formed the 'Bakerloo' band and later sang and played guitar for 'Colosseum'. He also played for Humble Pie and Strange Brew, and performed with artists shuch as 'Bob Dylan', 'Jack Bruce', 'Chris De Burgh', 'Cozy Powell' and 'Roger Chapman' from 'Family'

Stephen Duffy, who first came to National fame in the mid-1980s (after a short stint as lead vocalist/founding member of Duran Duran) as Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy, scoring six top-twenty hits. In the 1986, he formed the ethereally brilliant folk-pop group The Lilac Time with his brother Nick, which released seven critically acclaimed albums. Throughout this time he has released five solo albums, including one with classical violinist Nigel Kennedy and in 2002, a collaboration with Duran Duran co-founder Nick Rhodes as 'The Devils'. Also he's co-written some dozen songs with Canadian songwriter and Barenaked Ladies member Steven Page that have appeared on their albums. Unfortunately, Duffy also holds the rare distinction of actually been signed and subsequently dropped by every major label in the UK! For the last three years he has been working with an obscure fellow by the name of Robbie Williams, co-writing the albums, 'Intensive Care' and 'Rudebox'.

Steve Gibbons - singer/songwriter for 'Idle Race' and 'The Steve Gibbons Band'

Roland Gift - vocalist 'Fine Young Cannibals'

Paul Hancox - drummer with 60's band 'The Mindbenders'

Tony Iommi - guitarist for 'Mythology', 'The Chevrolets', 'Jethro Tull' and founding member of 'Black Sabbath'

Mike Kellie - band member of 60's rock group 'Spooky Tooth'

Denny Laine - formed 'Denny Laine & The Diplomats' in 1962 with Bev Bevan, he also formed 'The Moody Blues', also played same bill as 'Jimmy Hendrix' as 'The Denny Laine Electric Strings Band'. Denny was the bassist for 'Balls' and played for 'Ginger Baker's Airforce' as well as singing and playing guitar for 'Paul McCartneys' 'Wings'

Ken Lewis - (see John Carter)

Jeff Lynne - member of the Brumbeat scene, he later formed E.L.O. and played alongside 'George Harrison', 'Roy Orbison', 'Tom Petty' and 'Bob Dylan' in 'The Traveling Wilburys'. Lynne has produced for legendary rock artists like Roy Orbison, George Harrison, 'Ringo Starr' and 'Brian Wilson' (of 'The Beach Boys') as well as producing 'The Beatles Anthology' records in the mid-1990s.

Phil Lynott - Birmingham born and Dublin raised, Lynott formed 'Thin Lizzy'

Les Marshall - Drummer took over from John Bonham when he joined Tim Rose. Following that Les was Galliards drummer >website

Nick Mason - Born in Birmingham and raised in London, Mason is the longest serving member of 'Pink Floyd'

Susan Maughan 1960's singer. Susan Maughan b1942 lived in Greenway Street Small Heath and went to Tilton Road school before hitting the charts with Bobby's Girl.

Fritz Mcintyre - keyboardist for 'Simply Red'

Dave Mason - member of 'Traffic', friend of 'Jimmy James Hendrix'. Hendrix first heard "All Along The Watchtower" by Bob Dylan at a party he was invited to by Mason, he decided to record his own version the same night with Mason playing acoustic guitar.

John "Ozzy" Osbourne - 'Black Sabbath' fame

Carl Palmer - drummer of 'Emerson Lake and Palmer'

Christine Perfect - Bearwood born and raised singer & pianist for many Brumbeat bands and later 'Fleetwood Mac'

Robert Plant - born and raised in West Bromwich, Plant became leader of 'The Midland Flower People' and learned his trade in several Birmingham bands, he later fronted 'Led Zeppelin'

Colin "Cozy" Powell - Famous Cotswolds drummer who later lived in Sutton Coldfield, started his musical career in Brumbeat bands 'The Sorcerers', 'The Mayfair set' and 'The Ace Kefford Stand'. Powell worked with artists such as 'Donovan' to 'Roger Daltry', 'Jack Bruce' to 'Jeff Beck' and 'Gary Moore' to 'Brian May' as well as being a full time member of 'Black Sabbath'

Nick Rhodes - musician with 'Duran Duran' was born Nicholas Bates in Moseley and grew up in Hollywood on the outskirts of Birmingham

John Henry Rostill - bass guitarist/composer for 'The Shadows'

Dave Rotheray - songwriter/guitarist for 'The Beautiful South'

Kevin Rowland - singer/songwriter for 'Dexys Midnight Runners'

Mike Skinner - 'The Streets'

Dave Swarbrick - awarded a Lifetime Achievement Award at the BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards for his work with 'Fairport Convention'

John Taylor - musician with Duran Duran

Roger Taylor - musician with Duran Duran

Max Thomas - "City Boy" folk-turned-art-rock sextet. Very big in Canada during the 70's.

Fuzz Townsend - drummer with 'Bently Rthym Ace' and Stourbridge based 'Pop Will Eat Itself'

Ruby Turner - Soul singer of the 80's now regularly supports 'Jules Holland'

Ted Turner - guitar/vocals, 'Wishbone Ash'

Peter Overend Watts - Birmingham born, founding member of 'Mott The Hoople'

Toyah Willcox - 70's punk queen

Stevie Winwood - Member of 'The Spencer Davis Group', 'Traffic' and 'The Idle Race'. Winwood was a close friend of Jimi Hendrix and played on 5 Hendrix LP's including playing the wild organ riff on 'Voodoo Chile', he also played the powerful organ riff on 'Joe Cocker's' 'With A Little Help From My Friends' as well as 'Toots & The Maytals' 'Reggae Got Soul' album.

Roy Wood - leader/co-founder of 'The Move' and 'E.L.O.' as well as a particular popular spell with 'Wizard' (too many festive hits to mention)

Benjamin Zephaniah - Rasta dub poet, performed for 'Bob Marley's 'Wailers' and dance musicians such as 'Kinobe' and 'Bomb The Bass'


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I thought the original question was "Best Brit Group" (other than Beatles/Stones). I think almost every group from GB has been named. I think this is getting a bit thread worn.

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I thought the original question was "Best Brit Group" (other than Beatles/Stones). I think almost every group from GB has been named. I think this is getting a bit thread worn.




I completely agree. Thus, has the Mother Country produced the best music over the last 4 decades?


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Not worn as no one has said Thunder.

Till now.


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I was surprised to see Uriah Heep listed. Not a hugely successful band, but one I used to like when I was a dumb, young man. They have a piece on you tube, still rocking in Brazil on tour. They did, "The Wizard" which is largely unknown outside their own fans but still one of my top ten beautiful songs. I love the acoustic guitar and melody, then the hard drivin rock finish.


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As names like Blind Faith, Yard Birds, and Cream and countless other successful British bands and performers came drifting by in my occasionally lucid mind, I began to realize that there was an underlying connection to these as well as just about every Brit band that achieved any real and lasting success or notoriety. I then recognized the same similarity holds true for American bands. I then rationalized that perhaps there are no great Brit or great American rock groups, and that there is only one true music greatness. That one true and undeniable greatness – that solitary link, that connecting thread, perhaps the DNA of rock music - The genetic link that connects rock music -Brit or American - to all other music life forms, past, present and future is none other than Eric Clapton.




Good point Barry, but if you're going to delve into the DNA of rock music here, and especially with regard to the great Mr.Clapton, I'd say HIS DNA musical roots are much more american than british.

As I recall, the Mississippi Delta is in the Good Ol' U.S.of A., and not in Ol' Blighty.


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Right you are Dwight.

To youse kids there:
Listen to some Lead Belly and/or Robert Johnson. maybe you can hear where it came from.


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Just to add to the wear:
I neglected to list Mott the Hoople (+Ian Hunter), but someone else did,
as well as Sabbath, (but only up to IV for me)
Trapeze (with Glenn Hughes especially, Medusa and You Are the Music are killer..there's your hard rock remedy)
The Hollies (there's one that was forgotten, great vocals)
Wishbone Ash (king of the harmony leads, great sounding guitar from Andy Powell)
Rockpile (Dave Edmunds, Welshman i believe, along with Nick Lowe)
David Bowie (the earlier stuff was great up to around Young Americans anyway...the stuff with Mick Ronson)
T-Rex (Marc Bolan) someone mentioned that
The Move/Wizzard/Roy Wood
All the punk/wave bands pretty much covered already, although i'd throw in Elvis Costello & the Attractions.

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I find it kind of funny, I went ot youtube and looked up the Bee Gees and the clothes they wore in 1977 are the same ones in style now lol


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well its another day and my fav bands are .........UB40 ,Steve Gibbons Band (how could they not be ,see tag line) and Motorhead, i feel a bit of a reggae/ska thing coming on.... wheres ma old Black Uhuru records

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King Crimson, The Who, Tull, Emerson, Lake & Palmer and this very morn I was listening to Cat Stevens (aka Yusef what's-his-name)'s Tea for the Tillerman.

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Anybody mention the Zombies yet?

If not.... the Zombies.


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I find it kind of funny, I went ot youtube and looked up the Bee Gees and the clothes they wore in 1977 are the same ones in style now lol




That's probably true!
My favorite songs by the BG's are "Holiday" and "Every Christian Lion Hearted Man Will Show You". Nice psych style with plenty of mellotron. Happened that they were the A and B side of a single.

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The WHO
The Clash
The Animals
Rockpile
Dave Clark 5
Gerry and the Pacemakers
The Beatles
The Faces
Jeff Beck ( with Rod Stewart, Ron Wood )

Notice that no one bothers to say best Irish group? There really isnt such a thing (dont say U2,they left for lowtaxland ).


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Right you are Dwight.

To youse kids there:
Listen to some Lead Belly and/or Robert Johnson. maybe you can hear where it came from.




er and who was responsible for it ! YES the Brit's !!!

If we hadn't been involved in slaving and plantation owners, treating African slaves so badly then they would have written happy songs.

As usual, from the deepest pain and suffering comes the most powerful art.

Thankfully we live in more enlightened times and the end of slavery and ultimately, segregation in the Southern States made blues music accessible to a wider audience. Black GI based in the UK introduced us to it and the advent of easier international travel and communications has enabled the genre to reach a wider audience.

It's reminiscent of the folk music of Ireland, Scotland and even Lancashire and Yorkshire where times were hard.

I get really mad these days when someone manufactured girl band e.g. Spice Girls get awards in the R&B section.






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TRAFFIC!!!! And i am suprised no one has mentioned Ermans Ermits Enery the 8th i am


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Very good points there, Brummie. We can certainly credit the Brits with a revival of The Blues, or in this case Rhythm and Blues which is pretty much what Rock music is, when there seemed to be a stagnation in this genre on the Pop Charts.

But don't forget, even John Lennon, one of the chief reasons for the "British Invasion" during that time really idolized a certain white dude from Tupelo, Mississippi who really began the widespred acceptance of Rock and Roll about a decade before Mr.Lennon and his british cohorts garnered much attention.

And, Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys were basically doing a lot of Chuck Berry riffs and making it big just before The Beatles made their impact, also.

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other good but often forgotten, King Crimson, Brand X, Robin trower, etc.etc...

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