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So is THIS Triumph's new cruiser?
#233492 01/23/2008 12:46 PM
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I saw this photo in the photo posts but I can't seem to find anyone who has started a thread on it....I would think it would be on the top page for awhile if one has already been started.



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yes i made a post about it and even put a link to the story but it was gone in the few min's i don't know if it was deleted or not it was just gone and mod's if this wrong please say so i don't want to break the rules but i posted a real story and pic's about this bike??????

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Well, I can't see why it would be deleted but then again a few of mine have been in the past.

could you please post the link again. It's from motorcycle news. VERY interesting indeed. 1700cc over the rumored 1500cc. FINALY a credible source of info on the bike.

thanks for posting it ed!


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and if this wrong please say so...

thanks Ed

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i really hope thats not what the motor looks like

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This can't possibly be the long-awaited big-cc Triumph mystery cruiser.


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i like what i see of it lots of thing i could do to that bike

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Frank! That's excactly what I said too. I hope the spruce up the engine casings a bit.

to be honest, it looks like a vtx with a twin motor in it.


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remember guy's this a test bike.. out in the public when they go out they paint every thing black so it hard to get detail ... but at least the spy pic is not blurry lol

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the engine is more on the lines of the Tbird - but fuglier.

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remember guy's this a test bike.. out in the public when they go out they paint every thing black so it hard to get detail ... but at least the spy pic is not blurry lol

Ed




Blurry might have been better!


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Excuse me Mr.Bloor, but those barrels on that engine o' yours there need more....FINNING, so as to give it a more air-cooled look, you see!

(hopefully Mr.Bloor will heed my advice here and make that particular change to the castings pictured above BEFORE production commences...but nobody listens to me...so if this IS a close-to-production model, I'm startin' to think I'll pass on buyin' this bigger bike here...but we'll see when I SEE it in person...ya never know)


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well, look on the bright side.....there will be more rocket tourer owners. LOL

(I like it 'cept for the engine's cosmetics)


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I can't wait to take it out for a spin. I'm already saving for the down payment....


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It is not a flattering picture of the 1700. Looks like it is water cooled. If they are selling out to the USA market they should have gone to a V-cylinder configuration.

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rob, it'll never happen.

triple and twins.....that's what triumph has outwardly committed to. With some excellent results too. I am willing to bet that this 1700 twin is going to SCREAM!

Can't wait to try one out.


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Tony_From_Boston #233508 01/23/2008 3:11 PM
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Well i dont hate it. But i dont love it easier. First look at the TBA and i was hooked. That is not the case here.

Im with Dwight, put some fins on the cylinder heads and hide the fact it wearing a big fat water jacket. And please, try sheilding the radiator a bit better.

I hate radiators on bikes


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Do you think this is a good move for Triumph? Or do you think the British firm has sold out to the US market?






I would like to think "bought INTO" rather than "sold out" would be both more appropriate and realistic.

I would also hate to see Triumph put too many eggs into the 'cruiser' basket. There is far too much good to speak of in the 'urban' offerings from Triumph. I really think there are enough cruiser offerings and if they make that thing, the line should be pared down. If anything, I'd love to see a mid to large bike with tour capability and a STANDARD foot/riding position.


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Tony_From_Boston #233510 01/23/2008 3:15 PM
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It is a test bike so cosmetics will probably be changed slightley. Can't make out if its shaft drive or not, would like to know that, guessing yes. I like it.
Anyone interested in some bolt on air cooling fins?

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It is not a flattering picture of the 1700. Looks like it is water cooled. If they are selling out to the USA market they should have gone to a V-cylinder configuration.




When Triumph comes out with a V-Twin i am buying a Hyosung.

Triumph is not selling out to the US market. Pandering to it maybe, but not selling out.


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What amazes me is that they CAN make a twin that big. The original parallel twins got vibey once you got over about 500cc and the bigger ones (e.g. commando) survived only by being rubber mounted. We're talking about lumps of metal 4 inches across whipping up and down the same distance 50 to 100 times a second!

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Balance shafts, Bill. I'm guessin' that kind'a like Archimedes with his quote about moving the earth if he had a lever big enough to do it, you could probably make as big a parallel twin as you'd like and with acceptable amounts of vibration, as long as you also included those balance shafts in the basic design.

The cases on the old vertically-split twins had no room for 'em, of course.


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I saw the post and responded along the lines of " is that a radiator? needs more 'cruiser' style and bling.Some glittery bits would help."

As for the V twin bit, the comments in the MCN about "selling out" and "Triumph have not done well in America" seems to belie the facts.

A bit of fettlin' - and a huge accessory bill.....


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I'll keep my 2 pence worth until I see it in the raw, they do change a lot of stuff before they introduce it. but if you have a good gander at it, it does look triumphed..


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OH...and I forgot to add, those Meriden Triumphs 650s with their stroke longer in dimension than their bore were undersquare in design, and a longer stroke engine would be more prone to vibration than an oversquare design would be, which most modern engine designs are today. Of course that causes higher frequency "buzz". And I'd also bet that this new bike here is oversquare.

And I'm guessing because pistons today are "squattier" and lighter than those on my '70 Triumph, there also would be less recipricating weight to cause this vibration.


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It looks like a Suzuki GS450 engine on steroids. I hope that's not the final design.


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ron i have to be honest....so far i like what i see i wish there were more pic's of it.. and i am waiting to see when it does make it to the dealer... so i can see it up close

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Yup, it is remenisent of an early 80s model Suzuki GS450 there. But I'm waiting to see the finished product up close and in person before I write it off. After all it is only the prototype test bike and not the final production. Lets just wait and see.


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Dear Triumph:
Please go get the engineer who drew up the Bonneville engine and have him restyle this ugly thing.
If the same one(s) did both engines, please tell them to sober up and try it again.


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brian, the more I look at it the more I can see that there is NO cover on the top end and it looks like 'something is missing' on the top/side of the engine. I'm thinking that there will at least be SOMETHING there to dress it up a bit....good gravy, I hope so.


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Kind of looks photoshopped to me. The gas tank looks like it is sitting directly on top of the valve cover. Also looks like an older jap engine. The pipes and rad remind me of the Rocket III the wheels are the newer Speedmaster wheels. It's an odd mix and butt ugly in my opinion.


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i think it looks fine......
and very real

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Needs spokes


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and a kick starter.


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and a kick starter.




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the engine is more on the lines of the Tbird - but fuglier.




I like it. And from what I have overheard it will be a Thunderbird.

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As of 10:25 eastern time, the link to Motorcycle news is down. It says that it's being updated. I can't wait to see why. LOL


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I'll withhold judgement until they get it dolled (or tarted) up.


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Dolled up, tarted up? Jeez, you would think if it was going to be in super-secret spy photos, they could have at least WASHED the thing.


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