Sorry about that, Bob! But I hope you realize that between the two alternatives you mentioned above, that you were much more likely to also get a lesson on semantics from the BMW riders website than you EVER WERE to get on a H-D website, dude!
(yep...on a H-D website you are much more likely to ONLY get feedback such as..."Gee! That's cool!" over and over and over again!!!...and if that's all you wanted, may I suggest
www.welikeharleys.com)
