This may or may not help: I have long slash-cut TORS on my 07. If you look down them, you can see straight through. It's hard to tell due to recording variations, but they sound nothing like BigT's TORS. They're more like Dmahn's modded pipes but not quite as harsh. If you can imagine Dmahn's TORS with the smoothness of Jeepspot's Bubs, it'd come close. (I'm only referring to the sound when they're at idle; I don't rev it when stationary.)