Recently removed the baffles from my Bubs. They were about the loudest pipes out of anyone I hang out with, but they had this really painful background sound to them, even at idle. I don't know how to explain it, except to say that my eardrums physically hurt after riding the bike. Put some four inch beer can baffles in and man what a difference. Still crazy loud, but that physically painful sound is gone. LOVE IT. I'll still probably have to wear ear protection on long trips though.