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I am sure this question has been asked here already, but I am asking it again. Where can I get a "cheaper" chain? I don't want to spend the 200+ for the "Triumph" genuine part replacement. Any suggestions??? Thanks,  GM
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Try somewhere like this: http://www.busters-accessories.co.uk/products.asp?id=54Obviously one in your neck of the woods ! 
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If you look in the tech vault there is a Honda chain set that fits our bikes. Then you could go with a standard 530 chain and sprockets and save quite a bit. If you use a std. chain youy simply have to lube it more often and keep it clean.
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I'm pretty sure the Triumph item is a chain and sprockets set. It is recommended to replace both, so by the time you find that "cheaper chain" and buy sprockets, you're probably near 2 bills anyway. Hermy's has them for $198.
You get what you pay for.
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Or you can get a nice chrome chain like I did. Then you don't feel so bad about spendeing 200 bucks. It shines..... 
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I do not have my owner's manual or the bike for awhile but I want to order a chain. How many links are in the stock chain??
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Or you can get a nice chrome chain like I did.
That sounds cool. Where did you find one?
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Or you can get a nice chrome chain like I did.
That sounds cool. Where did you find one?
SteveB
I snagged one off Ebay for like $95.
A nice X-ring job.
They come in chrome & in colors.
I think they're more like $135 day in, day out.
They aren't "show" chrome, but they look nice.
I'm running MFR lube on it, which is pretty much invisible.
Longevity remains to be seen.
Contrarian views on 530 chains/aftermarket sprockets:
Stock chain is a 525, and the stock sprocket is undercut on the outside face.
As a result, a 530 chain with aftermarket sprockets is a bit bulkier in a couple of ways.
The tradeoff here is the amount of thread on the studs & clearance between nuts and adjusters.
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If you look in the tech vault there is a Honda chain set that fits our bikes. Then you could go with a standard 530 chain and sprockets and save quite a bit. If you use a std. chain youy simply have to lube it more often and keep it clean.
The MFR lube could have a place in this as well.
Clear, no fling, self-cleaning.
As to the cosmetic issue raised above, standard chains are available with different finishes too.
Is this a hijack yet?
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Richard Thompson
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I do not have my owner's manual or the bike for awhile but I want to order a chain. How many links are in the stock chain??
From the tech vault
Re: OEM Chain Specs DID 525 VM (112 link)
Let it be known that replacing both sprockets whenever replacing the chain is the proper way to do it.
In your case buy a cheap chain and reuse your old sprockets. Flip them over though. There is a little bit about a chain tool being needed.
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I used to use chains made by these people, http://www.diamondchain.com/products/catalog.phpThey seemed to last well enough. You can buy by the foot and then use a chain breaker to cut to fit, saving a lot of cash. Don't forget to get some master links too!
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Fast Eddy Sports has a chain kit with the chain and 2 sprockets for $175 including shipping.
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You can buy complete Triumph kits for a little under $200. that include the chain, both sprockets, and a new lock washer that doesn't come with the other kits. The Triumph front sprockets have the rubber on them which might eliminate a little vibration (debatable). For only $20. difference, I'd go the Triumph complete replacement kit.
Bob
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send unclecharlie a pm. he did the belt drive conversion. I think he has his chain lying around.His was still fairly new too.
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I spent the $200 and bought the Triumph parts.....seemed very inexpensive for a chain and sprocket set that needed to be changed after 22,000 miles.....when I hit 44,000 I'll do it again with Triumph parts....let's see.....$400 in parts over 44,000 miles...even doubling the cost (and miles) it sounds inexpensive....
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I don't have stock sprockets on my bike. It would be a waste of money for me to buy "stock sprockets" when I don't use them...
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So what sprockets are you using? 42 rear? what about the front?
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I spent the $200 and bought the Triumph parts.....seemed very inexpensive for a chain and sprocket set that needed to be changed after 22,000 miles.....when I hit 44,000 I'll do it again with Triumph parts....let's see.....$400 in parts over 44,000 miles...even doubling the cost (and miles) it sounds inexpensive....
Gets my vote.
I went from my stock 16t front sprocket to an 18t, and really liked the both of them a lot. Just have to get used to the difference.
When my chain needed replacement, I had two choices from Triumph - the Speedmaster set (for the earlier year models), or the America set with the 17t front sprocket,
which I went with. Could not be happier.
I do not know how many options Triumph gives us now, since the 865 engine became standard, but I am probably not too far from getting to find out. The 17t front proves to be a happy medium - easier starts, good roll-on, rpms just a little over 5k at 90 mph (indicated).
And a lot easier to get the set than to round it all up separately.
Sprockets and chain should be done together.
Keith
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AI removed, Pingle, UNI Filter, 1 shim, straight-through slash-cut TORs, Stage 1 DynaJet, 140 mains, 3 turns, 16/42 final drive, 115K
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So it turns out...All my other problems with "Not so pleasurable throttle response" and "slipping clutch" can be blamed on the old stretched out chain. I replaced it last week and noticed that all of my problems went away. I would have never expected the sensations that I was experiencing would be a result of the chain. Hmmm...Lesson learned for future maintenance issues.
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I've used chains from these guys, http://www.diamondchain.com/products/pro_motorcyclechain.phpfor years. They are about as good a quality/cost combination as you can get. You can save a bit buying a roll of chain and a number of masterlink kits and cut to fit your application.
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Geoff, how many miles did you have on your chain?
Bob
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Geoff, how many miles did you have on your chain?
I had almost 27000 miles on the bike when I changed out the chain. It was probably due around 24000 though...
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I've used chains from these guys, for years. They are about as good a quality/cost combination as you can get. You can save a bit buying a roll of chain and a number of masterlink kits and cut to fit your application.
I replaced it with a DID chain. Stock links and size, o-ring type. I got it open ended with a compression master link. Quick and easy to replace. I put the old one on the ground on its side, practically made a semi-circle with it. It was pretty stretched!! It actually left some gouge marks in the aluminum cover/guard that set underneath the primary sprocket. Boy did I neglect the replacement of that thing. Lesson learned.
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Your journey reminds me of similar Georgian tale some months ago. Except their secondary drive train had closer to 36K on it.
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Is the Triumph replacement chain continuous or does it have a master link? With 24,700 miles, I HAVE to get a new one soon, before I head east to Georgia, but I don't want to pay the $100 or more in labor to have it done at a dealer.. 
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Paul,
I can send you my chain break/riveter....just mail it back when you are done with it!
we should do this every weekend!
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Or I could give it back to you in person, with a big buddy hug. 
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Is the Triumph replacement chain continuous or does it have a master link? With 24,700 miles, I HAVE to get a new one soon, before I head east to Georgia, but I don't want to pay the $100 or more in labor to have it done at a dealer..
Most are broken chains. I got the DID x-ring chain with the riveted master link. Very easy. Took about 10 minutes to do. Cut the old one off with the angle grinder and slid the new one on. Popped on the master link and pressed down the rivets. If you are inventive enough, you can do it without the "required" tool...
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I'm not sure the original question was answered. I thought the Triumph kit had a continuous chain just like stock. I'm hoping there will be a 42/18 kit available now that it is a stock set up. As far as I can tell the kits are either 42/16 or 42/17 sprockets.
Bob
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I just talked to Baxter cycle in Marney, Iowa. Stock Triumph replacement chain DOES have a master link. Chain and sprocket set, $219, plus shipping. Very helpful people.
Fidelis et Fortis
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Or I could give it back to you in person, with a big buddy hug.
Careful, I hear Yota likes to spoon.
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Having purchased 4 chain kits I can state unequivocally that the kit has a length of chain. That is to say the new chain is not endless.
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we should do this every weekend!
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Thanks guys. Sorry for the dumb and probably repetitive questions, but if you have a chain breaker you don't need to grind off the link as Geoff did, right? Also as mentioned above the down side of getting the kit from a dealer is you don't have the option of using a different tooth sprocket, like an 18. True? And what about all those fancy gold colored chains the sportbike guys use. Are those stronger? I saw one on Blasts old Speedmaster. Yota, I'll probably find out if I can use Angelis's chain breaker if he is still speaking to me. Donny might still be willing to let me go over to his diesel shop and replace it. I know they have something there that can cut the chain off. It will save you the cost of shipping it. Yeah Dog I know about Yota's alleged reputation for spooning. But he was a perfect gentleman when we roomed together in Arkansas. Maybe I am just not his type... 
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If you have the DID chain tool, then you cut the chain by pushing out a pin using the DID tool.
If you order the oem kit, you could order the kit for a speedy(16) america (17). I need others to input here, but does one of the 270's come stock now with an 18 tooth? If so order that kit. It's up to you to figure the total price of going to an 18 tooth buying the america kit and a 18 sprocket vs buying all separate.
Colored stuff is bling. stronger chains are the 530s with which you have to go with the 530 chain rings. Tech vault for apps.
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I used the stock specs to order my new chain even though I run an 18 tooth front sprocket. My sprockets looked absolutely fine so I ordered the chain only. I go with the old school thought "2 chains for 1 sprocket". I don't see how today's chains could possibly wear a sprocket harder than an old one with the new technology of 0-rings and x-rings. Therefore, if one was able to get 2 chain replacements per one set of sprockets, the same should at the very minimum, hold true today. Just because the dealer/manufacturer says something, does not mean it is true. In fact, I am less likely to believe either of those sources. Take it straight from those with real life experience who aren't potentially making a profit on what they tell you. They are usually the most honest.
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here is my real life experience.  I ride too hard and far from home to suffer the cheapness of not changing the chain ring/sprocket. To each their own I guess. What is the cost of the rings? I cheap hotel room? Don't get me wrong, I am one cheap sob but when it comes to my bony butt I spend the money. Oh yeah, all the front sprockets looked like this one too. I hope you at least fipped over your sprockets, no?
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Trouble with 2 chains to 1 sprocket is the 2nd chain wears much faster,never put a new chain on old sprockets or old chain on new sprockets. As far as replacement I'll go with a std 530 chain and cheap Honda sprockets and pocket the change.
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