Mark and Kim. When I was young, when we(brother and sisters) did something really bad we got an unrestrained whipping. Our parents loved us and talked to us all the time about the consequences of our actions(for the present and the future). I went on to serve in the military then into law enforcement and now my own business, my sisters went on to raising families and getting good jobs, but my brother didn't want to listen to my parents and often got in trouble with the law. Now as an older adult He regrets doing some of the things did. What I'm trying to say is sometimes a child needs constant support by his parents(which I know you both provide) but sometimes counciling may help determin what is the cause of his rebellion and hostility.......My prayers go out to you and your family.......ANGELIS

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