Man, can i ever relate ! Got four bike keys and my car and house and other keys are too much to add the bike keys too unless i get a bag to carry them around ! And because if the bike keys are on the same rign as the ignition key, the others hang down and eat away at the bike frame, so i have to have that seperate. So i have all my bike keys on a ring except the ignition which stays by itself, then my car house and other keys on thier own ring. It's like a ****** tap dance every time i wanna move the car, unlock the bike, and dig out the ignition key to start it ! All because of unscrupulous thieving bastages !