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I am really, really starting to like everything I read and see about the Triumph America.
I've exchanged a couple of emails with the closest Triumph dealer to me (about 50 miles away). He told me the 2008 model will be the last one with carburetors. Starting with the 2009 model, the Triumph America will be fuel injected.
I presently do not have a motorcycle, but I may endeavor to get back in the saddle again as soon as possible (if I can convince the wife)...and I believe I'd like to do that with a Triumph America.
My dilemma is that I'm concerned if I get the America within the next couple of months that I may be disappointed that I did not wait for the fuel injected 2009 model. However, on the other hand, if I'm going to get back in the saddle, I don't want to wait for a year or more to do so.
Any thoughts on a fuel injected Triumph America? Worth the wait?
Regards, -Ward
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Read a little about them here, one of the guys in the UK has ridden one and his comments can be found here
Ray(UK)
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In my opinion carbs are better than fuel injection. The only advantage I see is that you do not have to choke the bike on cold mornings.
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Personally,,, I'm a carb kind of guy....fuel injection is nice but I just like to " see " my hardware......no problems with my carbs......My next bike will have FI just because that is what they have now but it is not enough of a "gee whiz " for me to wait or not purchase a bike over... - go thine own way young man 
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I wouldn't wait, there are some advantages to carburettors that can't be matched. 1. Carbs have fewer parts than the fuel system, so they have fewer things that can go wrong. 2. Being pure mechanical systems, most carb problems can be easily fixed. Many can be fixed on the roadside. Fuel injection, on the other hand, is mostly electronic. If it breaks you are SOL.
You will probably be happier in the long run if you don't wait.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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I can't see any negative to having carbs. There are positives - easier to tune and modify to suit your own set up. I love the classic aspects of my bike and that's what will probably keep me from wanting to give it up. That includes the carbs, chain, and wire wheels.
Bob
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I would have to agree with no negatives with carbs.Some manufactures that have been injected for years still can't get it right.
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If you change your pipes, airbox or anything else you need a computer to re-adjust your fuel injection settings.
Soren
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I'm with RamSound. Buy a current BA cause it's a great bike now, and will be in the following years.
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I'm a fan of Fuel injection, but the carbs work just fine. Certainly not a deal breaker if it were me.
2002 Bandit 1200/ GSXR cams/ 1277 BB Kit/ Holeshot header and can/ 38mm flatslides/ a good head/lotsa hp/lotsa tq- lots of rear tires...
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Go for the bike.You never know you may not be around next year.So enjoy life now.Buy the bike now if you got the funds.Life is too short.I waited way to long to buy my Speedmaster.I rode beater bikes for ever it seems like.Last new one I bought was in 1983 so I figured I waited long enough.Wife was actually cool about the then new Speedmaster a 2005.She told me to go buy one for a couple of years before I did.So sometimes they surprise you.She new I really wanted one and had gotten tired of my old junk bikes. 
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Keep in mind that a newer model doesn't always mean better. The next model may change something else that many of us consider classic. I'm glad I got an America before they dropped the wire wheels. I'm also glad I got one before they changed the gas tank. If you like the bike now, buy it and don't miss out on another year of riding. You may find you like it better than the next model.
Bob
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2002 Bandit 1200/ GSXR cams/ 1277 BB Kit/ Holeshot header and can/ 38mm flatslides/ a good head/lotsa hp/lotsa tq- lots of rear tires...
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Quote:
I wouldn't wait, there are some advantages to carburettors that can't be matched. 1. Carbs have fewer parts than the fuel system, so they have fewer things that can go wrong. 2. Being pure mechanical systems, most carb problems can be easily fixed. Many can be fixed on the roadside. Fuel injection, on the other hand, is mostly electronic. If it breaks you are SOL.
You will probably be happier in the long run if you don't wait.
Truer words have never been spoken.. I also thought about waiting for FI, but I love to meddle and tinker with just about everything I have.. keeps me occupied and out of trouble for the most part.
Buy now.. enjoy now
just my 2 cents
Trev
07 TBA Pacific Blue and White.. stock for now!
A bike has half the wheels my cage does.. but 3x the fun factor
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I bought mine in march and could not imagine the loss of riding time I would have lost.Go now and get that 1200 bonus for the 07 while available...great bike..you will not regret it.
life is good..I am retired..sold my America in 2008,bought a Rocket and sold that in 3/2013 and now own a new Triumph Bonneville T-100
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I vote carbs too but I would vote for a kick start and points!  Seriously I like carbs better from the stand point of easy to make mods to or change out completely if you want to change displacement via BB kit of stroker and up compression. No need for a computer to set them up no need for chips no need for a fuel pump that can fail no fuel warning light to fail and leave you dry in the boonies. The list goes on. So to me , especially on a bike simple is better, able to be fixed along the road even better.(thats why I like points)
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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(an overheard conversation between two youngsters near the front porch of a middle-class home in the city of Mayfield.....)
"Wally, why is Dad on the computer so much lately asking all those questions about motorcycles?"
"Well GOSH, Beav! On account'a Dad's just wants ta know ALL the stuff there is to know about buying a Triumph before he buys it. That's why. Ya see, unlike YOU, Dad ALWAYS does his homework! And that's why he ain't gonna buy no stupid Harley this time either!"
"Okay! I get it now, Wally!"
"Oh CRAP! Here comes that stupid Eddie Haskell on his Sportster! Let's go see what Mom's cookin' up in the kitchen, Beav."
"Okay Wally!"
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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i vote fuel injection if its a nice system. and since we have triumphs there will be the tuneboy option which allows for easy adjustments
Frank
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I may just acquire an FI America in '09.. everybody needs 4 bikes.. right? The fuel injection on these bikes is going to be a sweeeeet set up and Keihn is a top notch operation, they build a solid and very dependable system.
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What is the 'Tuneboy option'?
Warren
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tune boy is EFI programmer- like a power commander.
2002 Bandit 1200/ GSXR cams/ 1277 BB Kit/ Holeshot header and can/ 38mm flatslides/ a good head/lotsa hp/lotsa tq- lots of rear tires...
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but better  Frank
(Former)05 BA tbike pipes, ai removed, Freak, mikuni hsr 42's, 904, ported/polished head, 1mm oversized valves
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If you change your pipes, airbox or anything else you need a computer to re-adjust your fuel injection settings.
Soren
I thought you had to do the same thing with carbs, such as rejetting? My brother has a Yamaha cruiser with carbs, and he has a powercommander for regulating fuel.
Anyway, what I have noticed about FI over carbs is that the same bike with FI seems to get better mpg, and is also not sensative to changes in altitude. I love the looks of the Speedmaster and America. Some of the changes I wanted to see before considering one of these bikes was tubless tires, FI, and belt drive. It's getting really close! Until then, I will continue to ride my V-Strom which has FI & tubeless tires (still has darn chain!) and runs flawlessly at any elevation. Love the Triumphs though, and hope 2009 brings some great changes.
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I hope Triumphs fuel injection works out,I sure like the Delphi thats on my HD,since owning 3 HDs I gotta say the EFI sure is nice.
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