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holy cow, I know we're still getting used to the higher c$ but look at the difference in the rocket price!
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The Rocket III Touring is ready to take on the open road...blah blah blah... twin exhausts, and a big single headlight.
MSRP is $16,699 in the U.S. ($19,999 in Canada) and bikes will be available in the U.S. dealers by January 2008..





I guess it doesn't matter when they're avail in canada - won't be many sold til those prices get fixed!

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Wow considering our worthless dollar is on par with your loony that really isn't fair.
How bad would it be to buy in the US and pay tax in Canada?

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I've pretty much decided that I'll be buying my next bike over the border.

I pay the U.S. price and when I bring it over I pay our GST and PST on the U.S. price. On top of that there is a $209 charge for the paper work and a $79 dollar charge for safety check. Let's see what that would work out to....

U.S. pricing

16,699 x Michigan tax = 17,366.96
+ GST and PST = 19,798.33
+ paperwork and safety check = 20,086.33

Canadian Pricing

19,999 x GST and PST = 22,798.86

Savings of $2712.53


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What is the exchange rate Canada to US Dollars? Is it pretty close? Depending on the exchange rate I aggree, $2,700.00 is close to what you would pay for a Used America or Speedmaster. You could practically get another bike for that ammount.

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pretty close. technically $16,999 us is $16,584 cdn.

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Well Wojo, I hear that extra $2712.53CAD is for the undercoating!

(I mean, you wouldn't want your beautiful new RocketIII to rust out within the first couple o' years of ownership up there...right?!)



Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I'd rather spend the money on a new Sprint or the new 1500.


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Try US$ 31.238 in this country (thanks to a hefty additional import tax for it being over 2000cc).


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But Thanassis, they had to retrofit the Bike with equipment that makes it compatible with the Cradle Of Civilization!!!! For instance, instead of the Euro and US Market Electronic Speedometer and Tachometer, the Greek Model is equipped with a genuine Scribe, who shall write down your engine speed and your road speed on a scroll (lambskin of course)and present it to you, while also regaling you with tales of past rides to Sparta and the like...

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Try US$ 31.238 in this country




gaaaahhhhh!! Are they insane?


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1500???!!!

Well wojo, at the current rate of exchange, I hear the U.S. model of that new cruiser is slated to be a 1507cc!

(but I think Yota's currency converter says it'll be a 1620, and at the present rate of drop of the U.S. dollar's value, by the time that puppy actually does hit the market, he could be right)


Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Try US$ 31.238 in this country (thanks to a hefty additional import tax for it being over 2000cc).




And how much does a Moto Guzzi Norge run over there, T-man???


Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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We're being told that our dollar will start to drop again after four months. I wonder how they know that but can't tell me when it'll rise?

I guess I should buy everything know that I want from the U.S. now.


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Wojo ,if you dont register it in michigan. you dont pay the state tax, theres a good thread on this subject on the rat site i think this might be it http://www.triumphrat.net/rat-canada/284...importing+bikes
i was toying with that idea too, strangley enough a day or two after reading the rat site thread, i met a guy at a crappy tire ,who had just bought a 04/05 tiger in Texas somewhere and was getting his safety cert for the bike , said he had no problems at all saved 3 gs and had a hoot on the journey back to Vancouver .let us know how it goes if you do the import thing

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We're being told that our dollar will start to drop again after four months. I wonder how they know that but can't tell me when it'll rise.




GEE! You guys must have your own canadian version of Alan Greenspan or somethin' up there, then.

You see, down here whenever that former head of the U.S. Federal Reserve opened his mouth, the market would go throw gyrations you wouldn't believe, dude! If he said we were doin' good, BUY BABY, BUY! And, when he said there could be a little problem comin' around the corner....SELL BABY, SELL!!!

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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Try US$ 31.238 in this country (thanks to a hefty additional import tax for it being over 2000cc).




And how much does a Moto Guzzi Norge run over there, T-man???




The the base model Norge goes for US$19,879. (14.000 Euros).

A good time for Europeans to buy bikes in th US eh?


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gaaaahhhhh!! Are they insane?




Nope ... they are the government. I also happen to call them several other things you mods wouldn't allow.
Now you know where my anarchic tendencies come from.


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And how much does a Moto Guzzi Norge run over there, T-man???




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The the base model Norge goes for US$19,879. (14.000 Euros).

A good time for Europeans to buy bikes in th US eh?




Yep! I'd say so, eh?!

(BTW...it sure is a good thing we both can talk and understand "Canadian", eh?! ...which should serve me well, as Judie and I are flying up to British Columbia Canada this thursday to meet my birth mother for the first time)


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where abouts in BC are you headin Dwight , you got some time for a pint /wee goldie

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But Thanassis, they had to retrofit the Bike with equipment that makes it compatible with the Cradle Of Civilization!!!! For instance, instead of the Euro and US Market Electronic Speedometer and Tachometer, the Greek Model is equipped with a genuine Scribe, who shall write down your engine speed and your road speed on a scroll (lambskin of course)and present it to you, while also regaling you with tales of past rides to Sparta and the like...




that's too funny. Easily worth the extra 16K.

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Gordie,

Reading that thread makes it even cheaper because I don't have to pay the PST.

16,699 x GST = 18018.94
+ paperwork and safety check = 18306.94

A savings of $4779.92

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I guess if you think about it the reason for the pricing discrepancy is that the US$ fell vs the pound while the C$ didn't fall as much. From Triumph's point of view the answer is to raise the US price - shhhh... don't tell them.

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If you are not from Mich. You don't have to pay thier sales tax. I know that's the case in Washington.

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i believe if its a new item you pay both taxes, gst and pst. but if its used you pay only one tax (not 100% on this). if i remember correctly , the tiger guy , did pay state tax ,however it did have a texas plate (as he registered it there )on it and allowed him to ride it through the border ,it can take a few weeks to sort all this red tape BS out ,but if your saving a couple of Gs i think its well worth it
"If you are not from Mich. You don't have to pay thier sales tax. I know that's the case in Washington.
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only if you dont register the vehicle for use in that state .this is where it can get a bit complicated, insurance wise . if you trailer(spit)the bike back home then you only need trailer insurance ,but the canadian border guards can(if they so choose) put a hold on the bike for a few days to clear customs. still a great deal for us Canadians right now ,if only i handnt just bought a house

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This seems to be a sore spot for all industries in Canada. The parity of CDN to US $ should result in equal retail pricing??? Unfortunately not so easy when inventory was purchased prior when exchange rates may not have been favourable.

Dealerships may only make 1 or 2 purchases a year, also, publications might not be modified fast enough to react to the speed of the market.

OT story. A client purchased a Porsche last year and is trying to sell it now but can't. They lowered retail prices to reflect strong CDN $ and now his used price = new pricing. Lol, sucks to be him!

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Not to mention the disparity in minimum wages. That also affects prices all the way to the top of the "food" chain.


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where abouts in BC are you headin Dwight , you got some time for a pint /wee goldie




Gordie,
in Kelowna. It looks like that's about 150 miles...err...make that 220km east of Delta, BC...eh?!

I'll send ya a PM with my cell number, just in case we have time to take that drive to Delta. It'd be great to meet ya alright , but I'm not sure at this time if it's feasible time-wise, as Judie and I are only going to be in BC aboat...err...about 4 days, until the following monday.


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I've heard that the 2008 (cough) Harleys sold in Canada are considerably cheaper than the 2007 models. Anyone confirm this? If it is true, why isn't Triumph following suit?

It looks like the Auto makers are also not lowering their prices in Canada. Not only that, it appears any Canadian purchasing a car in the states will not get warranty in Canada (except for Toyota). Apparently there is a Canadian based class action law suit addressing this. Not only that, some US citizens are currently in litigation regarding their own class action suit related to cars bought in Canada by Americans a few years back when the Canadian $ was low. They also couldn't get warranty. Looks like the auto makers are in for it again.


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But Thanassis, they had to retrofit the Bike with equipment that makes it compatible with the Cradle Of Civilization!!!! For instance, instead of the Euro and US Market Electronic Speedometer and Tachometer, the Greek Model is equipped with a genuine Scribe, who shall write down your engine speed and your road speed on a scroll (lambskin of course)and present it to you, while also regaling you with tales of past rides to Sparta and the like...





Really? Would the Scribe also write my travelogues too? I never seem to be able to complete them.

As Bill mentioned ... that would be worth the extra 16K.


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I can confirm that Harley is dropping their CDN pricing. I was at Calgary Harley on the weekend and I believe it was one of the Dyna's is retailing for $800 less. Don't quote me on the model, but the sales guy was using this as a sales pitch.

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Now Thanassis, what goes on between a man and his scribe is purely his own personal business!!! But I would imagine so, as long as you feed him properly and keep the Ambrosia flowing freely enough...(maybe that's why you don't complete your travelogues, too freely flowing of the Ambrosia!)

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Buy it in NH....no tax!

Plus you can work in visit too!


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Well there is always January.


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True...got a trailer???


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That's easy to get. Getting the money for a second bike and justifying the expense is the harder part.


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I can help you with tthe justifcation

the $$$ sorry


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Getting the money for a second bike and justifying the expense is the harder part.




John, if you take me out and buy me a steak dinner I will give you 10$ towards your new bike.

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Keep your $10 I'd do it just to make the other girls jealous.


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Oh johnny your such a sweetheart!

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.....and you're such a tease.


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