 OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,164 Likes: 1
Should be Riding
|
OP
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,164 Likes: 1 |
I just dont think I will ever buy a GM car. The technology is just too dangerous. GM OnStar system could halt stolen carsSoren
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 820
3/4 Throttle
|
|
3/4 Throttle
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 820 |
Why dangerous?? More of a theft deterant I'd say. $200 a year is the sum that'd put me off.
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1
Saddle Sore
|
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1 |
Oh , yeah , miss a payment and yer dead in the road . Bad boys get the technology to disable as well and yer dead in the road also . Scary .
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 820
3/4 Throttle
|
|
3/4 Throttle
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 820 |
Quote:
Oh , yeah , miss a payment and yer dead in the road .
You can opt out of the slowing thingy :P
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,164 Likes: 1
Should be Riding
|
|
OP
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,164 Likes: 1 |
In history a lot of bad things started with good intentions.
Soren
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 820
3/4 Throttle
|
|
3/4 Throttle
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 820 |
Quote:
In history a lot of bad things started with good intentions.
Soren
Are you suggesting GM are plotting some kind of 1984esque control over the masses?
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 9,223
Big Bore
|
|
Big Bore
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 9,223 |
Hey Soren! I think I see black helicopters coming your way!!! 
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1
Saddle Sore
|
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1 |
Quote:
Quote:
In history a lot of bad things started with good intentions.
Soren
Are you suggesting GM are plotting some kind of 1984esque control over the masses?
Coincidence or too much caffeine , but GENERAL MOTORS spelled backwards is "Srotom lareneg" , an obscure Vorlon quote that translated into Latin reads "Novus ordo secorum " that translated into English is........"NEW WORLD ORDER". NOW - "ON STAR" , also spelled backwards in English , not Vorlon , reads - hold on - "RATS NO". DO YOU NOT SEE IT ? ARRGGHHH ! Check the wiring on your bike CLOSELY! LUCAS ! ( LUCIFER ) (gotta go ,they're watching) 
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Eeh! I'm not scared, Wade! My Renholtz resonator will keep me safe from any possible Orwellian future, dude! 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1
Saddle Sore
|
|
Saddle Sore
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,068 Likes: 1 |
DUDE , uhh , SIR Dwight , it's NOT RENHOLTZ , it's HELMHOLTZ , and I'm certain that he RESONATES from his cryptic rest at the prospect of an Orweigan future . 
|
|
|
 Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 441
Adjunct
|
|
Adjunct
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 441 |
Imagine if they had this when OJ was driving down the 5 and he had a GM blazer instead of a bronco. What would people have watched on TV for that many hours. This could seriously ruin the ratings on cops!
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
DUDE , uhh , SIR Dwight , it's NOT RENHOLTZ , it's HELMHOLTZ , and I'm certain that he RESONATES from his cryptic rest at the prospect of an Orweigan future .
But Wade sir! My resonator WAS made by the RENHOLTZ CORPORATION of Walla Walla, Washington!!!
YOU must have one of those vastly inferior Helmholtz models manufactured in the Yangchow province of China, a rather cheap ripoff of the RENHOLTZ model, which are still proudly made by AMERICANS(okay so much of the workforce there are now "newly arrived workers" from the state of Chihuahua Mexico, but let's not split hairs here) in as I stated above, beautiful WALLA WALLA, WASHINGTON!!!
AND BESIDES, I understand those chinese-made Helmholtz models are chock-full o' LEAD too!!!
So THERE!!! 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 788
3/4 Throttle
|
|
3/4 Throttle
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 788 |
Quote:
In history a lot of bad things started with good intentions.
Soren
Agreed....
07 TBA Pacific Blue and White.. stock for now!
A bike has half the wheels my cage does.. but 3x the fun factor
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,193
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,193 |
Quote:
Quote:
In history a lot of bad things started with good intentions.
Soren
Agreed....
"One nation....under surveillance."
(Bumper sticker I saw yesterday.)
"Let your soul shine,
It's better than sunshine,
It's better than moonshine,
****** sure better than rain."
-ABB
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 999
3/4 Throttle
|
|
3/4 Throttle
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 999 |
Well it did not help them much as someone has already stolen the web page 
The invisible One 
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,630 Likes: 7
Monkey Butt
|
|
Monkey Butt
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,630 Likes: 7 |
Quote:
"One nation....under surveillance."
(Bumper sticker I saw yesterday.)
Makes me wonder if all those people who are so up in arms about terror suspects being watched will have any worries about the government tracking all our movements using GPS on our vehicles ostensibly so they can tax us. I wonder if all private citizens being tracked by the IRS or the state department of revenue is more benign than Osama’s buddies being watched by the FBI or the NSA?
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
I wonder if you'd get a break on your insurance with that "feature"?
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Yep John! Word is that if this Onstar feature is installed in their car, even a caveman can get this discount.
(sorry)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,954
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,954 |
Who knows, maybe they'll even make a lame Fall Season TV show about OnStar.... 
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13
Should be Riding
|
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13 |
Blowing gravel off rural roads
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,606 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,606 Likes: 2 |
yup...call me paranoid...call me a nut job...call me a conspiracy theorist...but in as much as I see the huge benefits to the airbag deployment sensor...and the help at the touch of a button part....I can't help but think I'm being tracked...all the time....the gps in my phone is enough thanks...even if it's just for junk mail and spam "target marketing" I don't like the idea that they can listen in unknown...or track my location unknown....not that they do....  soooo I guess I am a paranoid-nut-job-conspiracy-theorist 
THE VOICE OF REASON
per: Stewart
AF&AM/Shriner/Scoutmaster
130/45 TBS 2shim SS Uni 18/42
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,639 Likes: 3
Old Hand
|
|
Old Hand
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,639 Likes: 3 |
There are subscription alarm systems that track your vehicle when you report it stolen that cost a lot less. One of the neat features of onstar is that if a thief can find out your pass code, they can call in and get your car doors unlocked, saving them a lot of trouble.
There are non-subscription alarms that can ground your ignition coil or shut off your fuel after letting the engine run just long enough to get into a conspicuous location so the thief is likely to assume that it just broke down and run away rather than try to fix it.
I have a couple of large dogs who hate strangers and have access to my garage, so I don't have to worry much at home.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,537
Check Pants
|
|
Check Pants
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,537 |
We didn't renew the Onstar in my wife's truck, never used it. Seems like a waste of wiring to me.
Tony Soprano always takes out all that stuff when buying a new car, he doesn't trust that stuff either (actual story line from a few seasons back).
Al
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,204
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,204 |
Those of you that have never been in a highspeed pursuit, should not down play the new technology. I've seen pursuits that turned out bad. So if this technology can help L.E. then i'm all for it........Angelis
1200CC BIG BORE, W/WISECO PISTONS,.250 STROKED CRANK, PORTED/POLISHED HEADS AND LARGER VALVES, CUSTOM WELDED EXHUAST, DUAL 42MM MIKUNI CARBS.
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13
Should be Riding
|
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13 |
Quote:
We didn't renew the Onstar in my wife's truck, never used it. Seems like a waste of wiring to me.
Tony Soprano always takes out all that stuff when buying a new car, he doesn't trust that stuff either (actual story line from a few seasons back).
Having Onstar is enough. Big Brother doesn't need to you to activate it. They can. Same with lowjack.
Worried about your cell phone tagging you somewhere? Turn it off. Paranoid? remove the battery.
Blowing gravel off rural roads
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,537
Check Pants
|
|
Check Pants
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,537 |
I removed the wiring to the antenna when we installed a sunroof. Take that Big Brother! Quote:
Quote:
We didn't renew the Onstar in my wife's truck, never used it. Seems like a waste of wiring to me.
Tony Soprano always takes out all that stuff when buying a new car, he doesn't trust that stuff either (actual story line from a few seasons back).
Having Onstar is enough. Big Brother doesn't need to you to activate it. They can. Same with lowjack.
Worried about your cell phone tagging you somewhere? Turn it off. Paranoid? remove the battery.
Al
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Yeah Al, that's a start, but I hope you know that Big Brother can still track us down unless we ALSO stop wearin' our pointed alumium foil hats that fends off those gamma rays coming from the planet Xytron!!!  (but I suppose one has to "pick their poison", huh?!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,537
Check Pants
|
|
Check Pants
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,537 |
Never give up the foil hats, you definitely want the mother ship to get your location when it comes. (and I did say when not if...) Quote:
Yeah Al, that's a start, but I hope you know that Big Brother can still track us down unless we ALSO stop wearin' our pointed alumium foil hats that fends off those gamma rays coming from the planet Xytron!!!
(but I suppose one has to "pick their poison", huh?!)
Al
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 6,432 Likes: 1
Worn Saddle
|
|
Worn Saddle
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 6,432 Likes: 1 |
Quote:
Paranoid?
Avoid ATMs, mini-marts, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Sears, JC Penney, Lowe's, Home Depot, Target, all casinos, most hotels, all banks, any city with traffic cameras...the list goes on and on, surveillance is everywhere. Behave and you won't have to worry. Or, just ignore it...I'll worry when the black helicopters show up.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Right on, Al!!!
You see people, now THIS what I call "Family Values"....Big BROTHER and the MOTHER Ship!
(and the first guy who says that it's actually Big Brother and the Holding Company OR makes ANY reference to Janis Joplin AT ALL will be moved to the back of the class!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,540
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,540 |
It doesn't matter to me anyway, GM lost me as a potentional customer when they stopped selling manuals trannys in pickups.
Now this is standard, not much of a trade off in my opinion. Not to mention 30 or something a month.
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
There's no such thing as privacy. Individual "rights" are an illusion. Go on about your business. Nothing to see here.
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,821
Bar Shake
|
|
Bar Shake
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,821 |
Now, Hold on!!!!!
(just a little bit tighter)
Big Brother is protecting the Fatherland 'til the Mothership gets here.
Contra todo mal, mezcal; contra todo bien, también
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Okay Dill, but why would you want to row through a shifter on a pickup when all you have to do is put that sucker in drive with an automatic?  (my Chevy Silverado has an automatic, as you can probably tell) And besides, everyone knows that a manual transmission is only fun to use when it's attached to a sportscar! (such as say a...550 Spyder!...for instance)
Last edited by Dwight; 10/11/2007 1:48 PM.
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Now, Hold on!!!!!
(just a little bit tighter)
Big Brother is protecting the Fatherland 'til the Mothership gets here.
Okay Bill! But where does this leave Sister Sledge, not to mention Sly, and the rest of the Family Stone? Can they come too???
(they are everyday people TOO, ya know?!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,821
Bar Shake
|
|
Bar Shake
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,821 |
Quote:
Okay Bill! But where does this leave Sister Sledge, not to mention Sly, and the rest of the Family Stone? Can they come too???
(they are everyday people TOO, ya know?!)
Depends on whether or not they're wearing the foil.
Contra todo mal, mezcal; contra todo bien, también
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2
Fe Butt
|
|
Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,096 Likes: 2 |
In that case, I'll call the people at Reynolds and Alcoa and have them ramp up their operation to maximum output!
(I sure wouldn't want anybody to be left behind, dude!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13
Should be Riding
|
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 11,124 Likes: 13 |
Quote:
Quote:
Paranoid?
Avoid ATMs, mini-marts, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Sears, JC Penney, Lowe's, Home Depot, Target, all casinos, most hotels, all banks, any city with traffic cameras...the list goes on and on, surveillance is everywhere. Behave and you won't have to worry. Or, just ignore it...I'll worry when the black helicopters show up.
Man it is tough anymore. I mean, where can ya pick your nose without big brother seeing you? Jeez. 
Blowing gravel off rural roads
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,606 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,606 Likes: 2 |
Quote:
Behave and you won't have to worry. Or, just ignore it...
Why does one have to be misbehaving to worry about being watched, tracked, monitored, or otherwise surveiled, without giving prior consent??? So I guess it's OKAY if they invade your privacy, or otherwise monitor your actions, without consent...after all...if I've done nothing wrong then I have nothing to worry about right...
When I go to a Wal-Mart a bank...or any of the other places listed I'm aware that I'm being monitored prior to my entering the store...with onstar...you can be monitored (including any and all in vehicle conversation...or other sounds that may emanate from the rear of larger more roomy models  ) without my permission...or my being aware...
Of course they SAY they will never do that...but then the black box in your car will NEVER be used against you either...and if you put your tooth under your pillow a little winged lady will put some $ under your pillow and take your tooth...Oh and some fat guy flies a sled and fits down your chimney to fill your stockings with stuff...
THE VOICE OF REASON
per: Stewart
AF&AM/Shriner/Scoutmaster
130/45 TBS 2shim SS Uni 18/42
|
|
|
Re: OnStar
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,193
Learned Hand
|
|
Learned Hand
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,193 |
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Paranoid?
Avoid ATMs, mini-marts, Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Sears, JC Penney, Lowe's, Home Depot, Target, all casinos, most hotels, all banks, any city with traffic cameras...the list goes on and on, surveillance is everywhere. Behave and you won't have to worry. Or, just ignore it...I'll worry when the black helicopters show up.
Man it is tough anymore. I mean, where can ya pick your nose without big brother seeing you? Jeez.
Just smile pretty when you flick your boogers at the cameras, that's what I do....
"Let your soul shine,
It's better than sunshine,
It's better than moonshine,
****** sure better than rain."
-ABB
|
|
|
|
|
