I love my J.C. whitney long pipes... Loud as h-- at a reasonable price ($47.00 ea.) if I remember and no rust yet after heving them installed for over 1 1/2 years. Just don't turn them down as they will resonate and flat drive you up a wall. The ends of mine are turned out to the side, no resonating now.... And yes, they somewhat sound like a Harley sad to say....