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A few members have wondered what the "platinum" braid available on Goodridge lines and Barnett cables looks like.
By way of comparison, here's a pic of a platinum brake line along with stainless throttle cables.

Nice! Do they make them in black?

Soren

Soren, look at page 5 and 6 of Goodridge's catalog (it's a PDF). Looks like they have end fittings in 'black chromed Stainless Steel'!

This page has their dealer locater.






Uh Ian?

Please excuse the ignorance, but what length, size, and connectors do we need for the stock America handle bar?

I measured on my bike and here is what I came up with.
From Master cyl. to caliper 49" (I was looking for between 49" and 50" I have America line on my Speedmaster)

From caliper to caliper 21"

Rear I was looking for 21" to 22"

They have 32 deg. 10mm banjo fitting that match the lines. Those are what I was going to use except not in black.

Those measurements were taken on my bike it would be more accurate to remove the line and measure but I didn't want to disable my breaks.

Thanks for the measurements. I guess I could have gotten off of my butt and measured them myself. Sorry about that. Thanks though for the banjo fitting size.

I've just been going through the process of changing my speedmaster bars over to America ones. Well Ian (dog) has helped me track down the right brake cables from J&P these ones which are being delivered in the next couple of days.

During the process of changing over the bars though, I've found that one of the throttle cables is fraying a bit too much for my liking so considering the ones I've got are for a Speedmaster, I now just want to get some throttle cables to match my new brake cables but are sized to suit my bike with speedie risers and America bars.

So I would really appreciate it if anyone who has already done this mod to kindly give me what infomation I need so I can order them. Like, if I emailed Barnetts and let them know I needed stainless steel throttle cables to suit an America but say 2" longer, would they be able to fill my order?

Also Whilst I'm at it, I'm thinking I might as well order a clutch cable to suit as well, so likewise, considering others have ordered cables to suit their America's, would Barnetts know what cables to send or do I have to give them sizes etc

Thankyou to anyone who can assist me here.

The throttle cables in the pic above are from Barnett.
I got their clutch cable while I was at it.
I have SM bars and risers on a BA, so I called for SM parts & they had the specs.
I would expect the same would hold true for BA.
A word about Barnett quality - tops.

Thanks for that Bill, I'll email Barnett today and ask them if they have the specs already for both throttle and clutch cables. Hopefully considering others have already used them, I won't have to send them any cables cos coming from Aus it would hold up things a bit too much for my liking.Thanks again.

Just to update on my question above, this is the response I received from Barnett after asking if I could order ss throttle and clutch cables to be shipped to Aus.

Quote:

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John
Yes we can make the cables, however we do not sell direct to the public,
sorry. You can contact a dealer (like Serco) and have them place the order
for you.

Regards,
Joe Snell
Barnett Tool & Eng.

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Interesting. It appears Barnett ship direct to some and not others. I actually thought as much. Does anyone know of another manufacturer who will ship online or do I have to pay the middle man

Bella Corse has 'em.
http://www.bellacorse.com/bce059.htm
There's been some trouble with their clutch cables, though.
A search would probably turn up some info on that.
Before I ordered from Barnett, I inquired as to whether the problem had been addressed.
The answer I got was that there have been no changes.

Hard to say about the Barnett direct thing.
I think some folks have gotten brake cables direct from them.
I called them about that and a lady answered and declined to sell direct to me.
That didn't matter, 'cause I was after the universal Goodridge stuff which isn't hard to find.

For the clutch and throttle, I was told by someone who'd been through it to call and ask for Mark Bowman.
I think there's also someone named Mike that can take care of it.
Maybe they don't wanna fool with int'l?
Dunno.

Another thing I don't know is if it would cost any extra to go through an alternate source as they recommend.

Motion Pro out of California. They got me squared away and I had my stuff in less than a week! (650) 594-9600

Thanks guys, at least now I have another company to look at cos I didn't know Bella Corse sold them. So that's a good lead for me (thanks Bill), and Jeff thankyou too for your info Regarding Barnetts. I think you are right regarding them not wanting to deal OS directly given they don't even like direct sales anyway, unless you know blokes who work there of course. BTW, does anyone believe they are the best or are they just another outlet to buy these types of parts from?

The other thing I need to ascertain is whether the SS Braided Lines last much longer than stock and if so, how much longer? Mind you, I could probably buy the Bella corse cables and have them delivered and they would still be cheaper than buying stock in Aus so provided the clutch cable was similar quality, I wouldn't be losing out on anything.

Anyway for the moment I will have to just buy a stock opening throttle cable so that I can get my bike on the road for an overnighter I have in 2 weeks. Then later in the year I'll have another look at the SS braided lines.

Thanks again everyone

Call and talk to Chris Taylor, in the Tool and Eng. department at Barnett. He'll set you up. The girls in the who handle orders don't realize they sell to us because, parts are not listed for our bikes, But are in their computers. I've done business with them this way.

It might be due to the international thing and Barnett doesn't want to be bothered but worth a shot.

They argued with me for a while at first also, but I eventually talked to someone in charge. I think it was Joe Snell, and he sent me drawings in email to verify and then they made them for me. I just told them there was no dealer for me to go to. The clutch cable is better than stock, smoother and well made, throttle cables are good, overall I'm pleased. I am about to send in a speedometer cable for them to press the fitting onto a new one.

I really appreciate all your responses fellas but I've just run out of time. I was running close to the wire as it was when I emailed them and the extra time to sort it would have meant me missing a planned weekend ride.

So I ended up buying 2 stock america cables (changing to America bars so got the longer ones) which I'm not happy about but what can you do. I'm now considering the idea of using this stuff but not sure yet. Has anyone else used it and if so how does it look. The other question I haven't had answered yet is, would we expect the Barnett cables to last longer or are they "much in a muchness". You know, about the same in the longevity dept.

So I was really wanting to get the Barnett cables but wasn't to be this time. What I'm thinking of doing is waiting for a while until I'm a bit more flushed with mons and then trying to organise Barnetts to work online with me using the contacts I have here. Then when I get them at, least I will have a couple of spare babies for my emergency kit. That way I won't feel so bad buying nice Barnett newies after having already forking out for the stock newies now.

Thanks all

I purchased from spiegler black braided lines with purple anodized fittings and banjo bolts from my local harley dealer. They are made direct fit for speedmaster. They come in about 6-8 different color hoses and 6-8 different color fittings. Received in 2 days. They are pretty nice. About $170.00 Front and Rear.

[QUOTE]Bella Corse has 'em.
http://www.bellacorse.com/bce059.htm
There's been some trouble with their clutch cables, though.[/QUOTE]

Yes I do sell stock length and custom length control cables and brake hoses. And yes, a very small number of customers have had a cable break, but as far as I know, all have had them replaced under warranty. It's been quite some time since I had to replace a cable.

/Mike

I wish I had known that before Mike . In fact, I've just realised the clutch cable doesn't fit now .

For some reason reading this forum with others who had put America bars on, the stock clutch cable was fine and would fit. Well not with mine as I'm using speedmaster risers and dumb me should have realised that. Mind you I don't even see them fitting with the lower risers cos they are way too short.

Anyway, now I'm rethinking the whole deal and will probably send back the stock cables and order through you I think.

Hopefully the only difference will be time.

So the latest is, I've just given Bella Corse a phone call but got an answering machine so I'll email and try and sort this debarcle out

Poor Staffo, what made him think this was an easy mod eh? Give me a VB (beer) will ya. Now give me anotherie cos that one didn't hit the sides

Nope if you read my posts and what I have PMed you on this subject I changed all the cables and break line to put America bars on my Speedmaster.

Ian, it's fine mate. I'm not bothered by my stuff up at all. In fact it just gives me time to sort all my cables out at the same time and that's a good thing.

What are ya drinkin mate, it's my shout

I also plan on using Spiegler for my brake hoses, they look like some good quality pieces. They have a bunch of different color combinations to chose from. I really wanted transluscent red hoses but they are not available through Spiegler. Anyone else try the Spieglers?

Well I've just spoken to Michael at Bellacorse and ordered a set of control cables. Unfortunately they are going to take approx 4 weeks to reach me which puts me in a bind really cos I've planned a road trip north to see my grown up kids at the end of Feb.

Anyway, I've posted a WTB ad in the classifieds for a speedmaster opening throttle cable as the one I have is frayed. So if someone can sell me one for cheap, I'll have a backup plan for riding north should the Bellacorse cables not arrive in time.

Geez, nothing comes easy does it.

Just wanted to let everyone know I bought a set of control cables 2nd hand from one of our members for a price we are both happy with which is brilliant. Now it doesn't matter about my braided cables not getting to me here in Aus before I have a road trip to see my kids up north

Hi Mike, I've emailed you at Bellacorse explaining how my clutch cable broke before I'd even had it on my bike for 12 months. .

I have also pm'd the same info just in case the email goes to someone else in sales or whatever.

I hope we can come to some sort of agreement warranty wise given this thread shows there is a precedent of these clutch cables breaking unexpectedly.

staffo