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BANG! POW! WHAM!
#199408 09/04/2007 2:22 AM
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So, every once in a while I get a loud backfire either through the pipes or through the carbs. I'm not really sure which. It only happens when I've been idling and the moment I crack the throttle even a little... BANG. Doesn't happen all the time, but it did happen twice today. This is NOT popping on deceleration - I don't have that at all.


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FriarJohn #199409 09/04/2007 8:24 AM
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it is likely (particularly where you have NO poping on decel) that your idle set up is way to rich...a little poping on decel is proper on a well tuned vacume slide carb...no poping at all indicates that you are running rich enough to allow for the much higher air flow and no fule flow, caused by a high rev, no throtle, condition, it is probable that it is a carb back fire...but not a sure thing


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FriarJohn #199410 09/04/2007 9:29 AM
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I had the same backfiring issue after idle at red lights. I corrected it by turning air mixture screws in slightly.

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MGJohnE #199411 09/04/2007 11:20 AM
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If you are cracking the throttle another possible cause is you are opening and closing it very fast and the slide doesn't have time to react. I crack mine as I down shift..pull in clutch , crack , shift, I feel it brings the slower parts up to speed during down shifting making it smoother. Every once in a blue moon I get a puff back through the carb if I crack it and I believe it is because the slide didn't have a chance to move.


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The_Dog33 #199412 09/04/2007 5:10 PM
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Doesn't matter how quickly I crack the throttle. And the bike is never moving when it happens. It may happen if I'm just starting off, usually after it's been idling for a while.


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FriarJohn #199413 09/04/2007 7:15 PM
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don't have to be moving for it to happen when it happens to me it is usually at a stop or approaching one. Not saying that is whats going on with your bike was just putting it out there.


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The_Dog33 #199414 09/04/2007 10:35 PM
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That's cool. Just trying to narrow it down.


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FriarJohn #199415 09/05/2007 12:34 AM
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Quote:

So, every once in a while I get a loud backfire either through the pipes or through the carbs. I'm not really sure which





Critical information there John. Need to know which it is.


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bigbill #199416 09/05/2007 9:25 AM
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I'll try and isolate it.


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FriarJohn #199417 09/05/2007 12:07 PM
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>I corrected it by turning air mixture screws in slightly.

My hunch is John is on the right track here.
Collection in exhaust @ idle.
Fires when you give it some air.
I'd guess that it's even possible to create a backfire through a carb this way because of a wasted spark cycle during valve overlap.


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rhnstn #199418 09/05/2007 1:43 PM
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I'll give that a shot.


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rhnstn #199419 09/05/2007 4:07 PM
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Does the 270 engine work on the "wasted spark" principal?

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larryshep #199420 09/06/2007 11:37 AM
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>Does the 270 engine work on the "wasted spark" principal?

Yup.


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FriarJohn #199421 09/06/2007 1:03 PM
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If you can narrow it down a bit, it will be easier for you to sort out. If it's from the pipes, it could be a very rich idle mixture or weak spark allowing raw fuel to build up in the exhaust system and being light off when you open the throttle.

If it's from a carburettor, the mixture is a bit lean. This could be the idle mixture adjustment, a clogged transition jet (the small holes in the bottom of the carb throat just above the throttle plate), a slide stuck partly open, an air leak or too small pilot jets.


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Greybeard #199422 09/06/2007 1:51 PM
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I get it through the carbs and my pilot is slightly rich. I mean slightly too my insulator of my plug is brown but I get just a little black on the outer part by the threads. I run 48 pilot soon to be a 45 then readjust the screws. Like I said above it just once in awhile for me.


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The_Dog33 #199423 09/06/2007 11:36 PM
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I rode to work today and I swear I heard it pop through both ends at different times.


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FriarJohn #199424 09/07/2007 1:14 AM
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I have days like that myself sometimes!!


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rsd #199425 09/07/2007 9:50 AM
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Me too but it's never just a pop.


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