 Tonal quality of Triumph's 'off-road' silencers?
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I want to get a slightly more deeper sound from my 07 America (w/OEM pipes) and wondered what people thought of the long 'off-road' silencers Triumph offer?
I've had Epco's, which sound wonderful but too loud for me. Could go for something half their volume. Any other suggestions? Thanks
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I thought the TORs had a kind of tinny sound not a good deep tone. Weren't loud enough for me but seems loud isn't what you want. I didn't care for the tone either. Wish I knew a better way to describe it. Some guys like it so best bet would be to find someone with a set and listen.
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I have short TORs and with the stock airbox they were very tame. When I ditched the airbox and put the K&Ns on, they really woke up. They're mellow when putting around but when you crack the throttle wide open they have a nice deep roar.
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I put em on Karens bike...id describe it as a tin canny bass echo enhanced note. Not bad...better than silent stock but not as manly as my Specialty Spares 
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I have short TORs and with the stock airbox they were very tame. When I ditched the airbox and put the K&Ns on, they really woke up. They're mellow when putting around but when you crack the throttle wide open they have a nice deep roar.
That is an interesting post, I am unsure about getting the TOR short slash which I have only heard on someones bike in a carpark and other pipes which I find to loud. Seeing as I was going to ditch the snorkel and AI I wonder if I will get the same benifit as you FriarJohn?
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I have ThunderBike Pipes and they sound Just right at Idle to @ 1/4 throttle they have a Deep Mellow manly sound. After about 1/4 throttle to full throttle They proportionally come alive, not obtrusive but the cagers know your there.
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There are a couple of different long off road TORS. One has baffles and one is straight through with some kind of packing. I have the later and I did not like the sound-too brassy, not deep at at, kind of like a jack hammer cadence. But this is highly subjective.
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There are more versions of the TOR's than you can shake a stick at. Newer ones may sound better, but the one's I've heard seemed a bit tinny. The Epco Stainless pipes I have sound very much like the slightly baffled megaphones I had on a hotrod 650 years ago.
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I agree my current tors give a sound a bit like a rappy growl but take out a baffle or 2 as can be heard here and you can get a much deeper quality roar. Problem fixed quite nicely 
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The long TOR's (the straight through type). Seem to get louder over time. I've noticed this with mine, and have heard a few others say it.
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I have long TOR's fitted, at 1/2 to WOT they provide a reasonable sound but not as deep as I'd like, certianly not at lower revs. I've looked for some alternatives in the UK and can only come up with Trident Trident . An America version is not listed but having contacted them they do a specific fit for our bikes. Just wondered If anyone has any experience of these or any other good bits of kit in the UK.
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Hi Larry, so they do a specific fit for our bikes but I noticed they don't show anything to indicate this on their website. Anyway I havn't heard myself as your link is the first time I new there was such a company who made pipes. I do like what they say on their site though, ie removable baffles etc and they look like quality pipes so it would be interesting if we could see the america / speedie equivalent. On another NOTE I recently went on a ride with a bloke who owns a Bonnyville and I really liked the sound of his pipes and actually thought then how they sounded much better than mine. In fact I even toyed with the idea of putting the bonnyville pipes on my bike. I know this would be unusual but considering I want to improve the sound of mine and the bonnyville pipes look great so why not I later decided no but your showing me this site has brought back that idea. It's certainly is a Poor Me situation when I have so many options. I was wondering then if you had actually thought about putting on the Bonnyville pipes or don't they fit our headers?
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I always loved the look of the pea shooters. The ones from the 50s and todays too.
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In fact I even toyed with the idea of putting the bonnyville pipes on my bike. I know this would be unusual but considering I want to improve the sound of mine and the bonnyville pipes look great so why not
Why not? Because of the crank timing. So far you know they sound good on a 360-degree engine. They might sound great on your 270-degree engine but they might sound awful. Can you borrow them from your friend for a few minutes?
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Don't know if he would like it much John but at least you know where I'm coming from. Certainly an interesting idea but not for the purists I guess. I just reckon they look great. Don't ask me why but it's just one of those things. On the sound thing though, they sound equally if not better than what they look like I reckon. I did forget about the 360 v 270 thing though which would definitely need someone to like you say, put them on and see how they sound. I dare say one day someone will put them on and if they do sound good, hopefully they'll do a sound byte for all to hear. 
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I have ThunderBike Pipes and they sound Just right at Idle to @ 1/4 throttle they have a Deep Mellow manly sound. After about 1/4 throttle to full throttle They proportionally come alive, not obtrusive but the cagers know your there.
Same here and I love um!
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Long slash TORs here. They are an older, straight-through version.
I have to describe it as a "SNARLY GROWL". They are loud. I would not want anything louder. As for tone, I do like it.
People do hear me coming, and I have had several people (bike people) say they sound great, even though I am still a bit self-conscious about the volume.
I do have a annoying moaning wail from the intake, though. Drilled UNI and airbox, but I may have to enlarge the hole, or reshape it. The wail comes on about 4k rpm in any gear, and when I first started hearing it (right after I changed pipes), I though maybe it was a wheel bearing. I believe these pipes are so "open" that the intake now is as restrictive as the stock pipes were before, but of course less restrictive than a stock airbox. I never heard this sound with the stock pipes, though, as quiet as they were.
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Glad you like your tors Keith. Mine must have been a later version like 05, cos they definitely aren't straight through but I plan on sorting that out soon.
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Long slash TORs here. They are an older, straight-through version.
I have to describe it as a "SNARLY GROWL". They are loud. I would not want anything louder. As for tone, I do like it.
People do hear me coming, and I have had several people (bike people) say they sound great, even though I am still a bit self-conscious about the volume.
Same comments here. My long TORs are the older straight through type. Fairly loud but I like them. Positive comments from other bikers and friends.
I noticed that Pat's jetting calculator shows the TORS in a stock config or with 1,2 or 3 baffles removed. Jetting is different for each config. Where would our pipes fit equipped with the straight through passage and some packing surrounding it?
Any ideas?
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Really like the sound of my Thunder Bike exhaust.I listened to all the different available sound files and they just seemed to have the sound similar to the old Triumphs.They are alittle on the costly side but better performance all around with jet changes etc.The guys at T-Bike were great and I could'nt believe how they made it here to New Hampshire in 5 days from New Zealand.Crap it takes 7-10 from California.
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I noticed that Pat's jetting calculator shows the TORS in a stock config or with 1,2 or 3 baffles removed. Jetting is different for each config. Where would our pipes fit equipped with the straight through passage and some packing surrounding it?
Any ideas?
I'd like to know too. As I've got short slash cut TORS that are straight thru with "glass pack" style packing. They're still the break-in stage, as I've only got 500 mile on the bike. But they sound good with a UNI filter & Polaris rubber bellmouth velocity stock on the stock airbox.
Any insight on this would be appreciated. I've also got the following:
TBS needles & 1 shim
Nology coils
Bremi wires
NGK Iridium spark plugs
NB primary mixture screws at ~ 2.25 turns out
120 stock mains, soon to go to 122 or 125 (and remove the shims.)
Thanks!
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In fact I even toyed with the idea of putting the bonnyville pipes on my bike. I know this would be unusual but considering I want to improve the sound of mine and the bonnyville pipes look great so why not
Why not? Because of the crank timing. So far you know they sound good on a 360-degree engine. They might sound great on your 270-degree engine but they might sound awful. Can you borrow them from your friend for a few minutes?
I was looking at the pea shooters not too long ago again and the curve on the header end would make them slant up or down depending what way you put them on. You would have to make an adapter with a bend or headers that have a similar bend to the bonnie exhaust.
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