 I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
OP
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
Calling all brake gurus. I've posted an ad in the classifieds seeking a TBS front hub for the dual disc conversion, but that project will cost somewhere near a grand.
What I'm looking at in this thread is a sort of ROI analysis. Do the sintered pads and floating rotor kit that Brent sells even come close to a (stock) dual disc set up? (Obviously dual floating rotors with sintered pads should beat stock dual discs.) Bellacorse lists some fancier components but apparently they only fit the T-100 and Thruxton. Is the $770 difference between Brent's kit and the stock dual discs worth the cost? Are there any other options for our bikes?
I'm asking because I got in trouble a couple times in BC last weekend due to brake fade. My bike runs outstanding but the brakes are seriously lacking. I'm running the sintered pads on stock rotors.
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 42
Greenhorn
|
|
Greenhorn
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 42 |
Try this link for beringer brakes, a French (spit) company who offer 4 and 6 piston calipers as well as other stuff. The link is to their cattle dog, page 12 is for Triumph products. There is also a US site but I did not see a link to a cattle dog. http://www.beringer.fr/cat/caten.pdfCheers, Cruser
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,932 Likes: 2
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,932 Likes: 2 |
do you downshift? a little engine braking goes a long way. I'm sure you do this already but I know some guys that dont.
we should do this every weekend!
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
OP
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
I do when casually riding but during more... spirited... riding this weekend I don't think I did (during panic stops).
|
|
|
 Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,626
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,626 |
Quote:
Calling all brake gurus. I've posted an ad in the classifieds seeking a TBS front hub for the dual disc conversion, but that project will cost somewhere near a grand.
What I'm looking at in this thread is a sort of ROI analysis. Do the sintered pads and floating rotor kit that Brent sells even come close to a (stock) dual disc set up? (Obviously dual floating rotors with sintered pads should beat stock dual discs.) Bellacorse lists some fancier components but apparently they only fit the T-100 and Thruxton. Is the $770 difference between Brent's kit and the stock dual discs worth the cost? Are there any other options for our bikes?
I'm asking because I got in trouble a couple times in BC last weekend due to brake fade. My bike runs outstanding but the brakes are seriously lacking. I'm running the sintered pads on stock rotors.
Okay FriarJohn, this is a wild one. What if you reversed the fork legs? That would put the caliper in front of the right leg. The extra cooling air would probably reduce your brake fade. The best part is it's almost free. Only costs your wrenching time.
   
Steelheart- '03 Speedmaster Black/Yellow
The Hayabusa Killa
16" Shorties/140 mains/Airbox drilled
Procom CDI
"There is no cure for Celibacy. But we can treat the symptoms."
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
OP
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
Quote:
Try this link for beringer brakes, a French (spit) company who offer 4 and 6 piston calipers as well as other stuff. The link is to their cattle dog, page 12 is for Triumph products. There is also a US site but I did not see a link to a cattle dog.
http://www.beringer.fr/cat/caten.pdf
Cheers,
Cruser
They do list parts for our bikes, but has anyone used them? I'm hoping for first hand experience with the improvement.
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 42
Greenhorn
|
|
Greenhorn
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 42 |
Just did some more looking, Bonneville Performance have them advertised, they may be able to give you some feedback, they only had pics of Bonnies but may be able to confirm availability for the BA & SM.
Cruser
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
OP
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
Yeah, that's not going to work for me. That vendor and I don't get along (long story).
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,753
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,753 |
i recently put on the bec sintered pads and floater, BIG difference. i say try that first, and if not maybe see if you can get the berringer from someone else? but you may not need to after you try this set up out
Frank
(Former)05 BA tbike pipes, ai removed, Freak, mikuni hsr 42's, 904, ported/polished head, 1mm oversized valves
NOW-2010 silver and black tbird
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 6,432 Likes: 1
Worn Saddle
|
|
Worn Saddle
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 6,432 Likes: 1 |
Have you thought about adapting a metric sportbike 4 piston caliper?
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
OP
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
Do you know of any that bolt on? I'm not really in a position to fabricate anything to make it work. Beringer lists a 6-pot caliper for our bikes, the Aerotec H12A. Have to find out what that costs. "Looks" expensive.
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,164 Likes: 1
Should be Riding
|
|
Should be Riding
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 12,164 Likes: 1 |
If you went with the Beringer, would have to change your master cylindar too? Or would the stock one work ok.
Soren
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,753
Loquacious
|
|
Loquacious
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,753 |
they go for about 375.00 per BP website and i believe you can use the stock master cylinder. not positive tho
Frank
(Former)05 BA tbike pipes, ai removed, Freak, mikuni hsr 42's, 904, ported/polished head, 1mm oversized valves
NOW-2010 silver and black tbird
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 45
Greenhorn
|
|
Greenhorn
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 45 |
I replaced my front disc with the ECB Floating Rotor and Sintered Pads. I also replaced the front springs with some Progressive Dual Rate. Overall my bike stopping capability is so much superior to stock. Can't see where or when I would need more capability. I would try this route first and see how it works for you.
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 6,432 Likes: 1
Worn Saddle
|
|
Worn Saddle
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 6,432 Likes: 1 |
Quote:
Do you know of any that bolt on?
Not any right off hand. It's my belief that a lot of the metric parts are shared and not original "off the die" parts and I suspect there's a direct bolt-on replacement already being used on a different badged bike. Have to locate the OEM caliper manufacturer first, but, hey, that's what the internet's for...
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
|
|
|
Re: I need more brakes
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825
"Lighten up, Francis."
|
|
OP
"Lighten up, Francis."
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 18,825 |
Well, today I had lunch with Dale (Roadtrip) from Billings and he was kind enough to let me take his new '07 Speedy for a spin around the block.
Oh, I definitely need dual discs...
|
|
|
|
|
