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What about the Spice Girls. And i would have thought the Pet Shop Boys would have got a mention. 
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Little Feat and The Band have always been tops on my list
hope this link works. there was a neat article about Levon Helm, in the NY Times yesterday new generation hops the mystery train.
PS: two of my faves too.
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Australias own SILVERCHAIR!!! COLD CHISEL THE ANGELS MIDNIGHT OIL POWDERFINGER 
Midnight Oil was an awesome band! There was another band from down under that I really liked, they never released anything in the U.S. though... The Uncanney X-Men.
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OK, so i jest about the Pet Shop Boys and The Spice Girls.  This is one of those unanswerable questions. Its a bit like the Red Triumphs are better then the Black ones are better than the Blue ones are better then the Pink ones. Genesis, Brilliant, but how can you compare them to the likes of Led Zep or Deep Purple. Same goes for Pink Floyd. Rock music covers so many types of music it is very hard to pick a "Best Rock Group". So many great bands have been mentioned here, but so to have many been left off. What about Black Sabbath, Rainbow, Judus Priest, Whitesnake, UFO, Sorpions, Status Quo. There are so many brilliant bands. And what do you use to gauge the Best Rock Band. Albums Sold, number of paying fans at concerts, or length of time the band has been playing. Use those guidelines and KISS are up there with the best of them, and ahead of most. Or, do you use musical ability. If so, well that knocks out the likes of KISS, AC/DC and a million over heavey rock/metal bands. Not exactly at the forfront of musical abillity are they. Who is the best Rock Band of all time is the all time unanswerable question and will be argued for the rest of time.
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METALLICA granted they have been steadily going down hill since "And Justice for All". For classic rock I would have to go with Skynyrd and the Allmans. And for current odd ball band I would have to go with Drive by Truckers
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Don't start me back on the Genesis conversation...
Queen - definately. Number one in the charts on the day I was born...
New bands... I'm gonna stick my head out and say INXS. Not new exactly but new lead singer and newish album. And on tour in North America. I saw them in Bristol not long back and they were fantastic!
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06 America - missing, presumed in bits. With it's TBS wheel... 
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And what do you use to gauge the Best Rock Band. Albums Sold, number of paying fans at concerts, or length of time the band has been playing. Use those guidelines and KISS are up there with the best of them, and ahead of most.
Or, do you use musical ability. If so, well that knocks out the likes of KISS, AC/DC and a million over heavey rock/metal bands. Not exactly at the forfront of musical abillity are they.
Who is the best Rock Band of all time is the all time unanswerable question and will be argued for the rest of time.
Mark, you are absolutley right. There has to be rules set down to decide the "best band" of all time. I vote for overall musical ability over popularity. For example Jetro Tull and Oingo Boingo. Both lead men (Ian Anderson and Danny Elfman respectively) are both absolute musical geniuses that can play any kind of instrument at anytime and play and write any kind of music at any time.
If determining the best band depended on popularity, then there is no way to pick one "best band". It would have to be spilt up between genres and eras.
One thing that is unfortunate, is that there are (were) a lot of very talented bands (in all genres) that put out one or maybe two awesome songs, then you nevber heard from them again for whatever reasons (not enough political pull within the music industry is the biggest, the band broke up or even they achieved their dream of making an album and moved onto something else).
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CCR, followed by SRV & Dylan.
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Am I the only one who likes Van Halen in any of their variations? Not my fav, but worth a mention. Some of my favs - RUSH, ac/dc, queen, stones, sabbath, kiss, G-n-R, Aerosmith, skynyrd,...... And I know I'm gonna get slammed and probably banned from BA.com... but I have to say it... I think Led Zepplin is the most overplayed and over rated band of all time. Good? Yes, but Rock gods???? 
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All I get from this thread is that Bikers in general, and most of the people on this board in specific are old or old souled.
Why hasn't anybody mentioned any newer bands? Does more modern music not rate?
Any suggestions? ..... Nickleback?
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And I know I'm gonna get slammed and probably banned from BA.com... but I have to say it... I think Led Zepplin is the most overplayed and over rated band of all time. Good? Yes, but Rock gods????
No, if you would have said Barry Manilow was the all time rock god, then maybe we would have to have a little chat with you 
Personally I feel the same way about AC/DC. Over played, way over rated. I guess if you are going to play three chords, play them well and play them loud.
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IRON WHAT?
F@#%$& MAIDEN!!! 
Yes Iron F*&%&^$%* Maiden!!! Definitely one of my favorite bands!!! I agree though you can not pick a best rock band. Too many different tastes in music. If I had to pick it would be one of the classics like Zep or the Stones.
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There are so many to choose from, no one has yet mentioned Bad Company, Free, Iggy Pop and the Stooges, Uriah Heep, Yes, Foghat, Marshall Tucker Band, Green Day, Nirvana...the list is too long...
The Beatles, the Stones and Led Zepplin top the list for music sales if that counts.
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Stones IMHO are the most WAY overrated band, hands down. They have a few songs I enjoy, but not many. May have made a large influence on the rock scene but there musical talent really is questionable. Stewart, gotta WAY disagree with ya' on that zeppelin statement. They are definitely overplayed but I certainly don't think overrated. Ain't music great! Takes all kinds to turn on all kinds. Gotta love it. The genre issue is definitely a huge issue when dealing with the great band ever. Geez, the list can go on ad nauseum. That being said: The Who FREAKING ROCKS! (Rush at a close second). Now lets talk guitarists. 
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One thing that is unfortunate, is that there are (were) a lot of very talented bands (in all genres) that put out one or maybe two awesome songs, then you never heard from them again for whatever reasons (not enough political pull within the music industry is the biggest, the band broke up or even they achieved their dream of making an album and moved onto something else).
Oh yes, there are so many bands who have had one or two great albums ands then have gone away never to be heard of again. And to take that further, think of the number of really talented mucisians who have never made an record simply because they were not at the right place at the right time.
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I vote for overall musical ability over popularity.
On that note, a "rock" band that for me are musically brilliant, Toto are one of my favorites. Ive often heard them refered to as "the musicians band". Saw them in London back in the 80's and the audiance was a whos who of the London music sene. Made fore a very strange atmosphere.
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Wow Foghat!
First concert: Rush, Foghat, Southside Johnny, The Tubes and Roadmaster at the real Comiskey Park in Chicago - circa 1978. All I can say is WOW! What a day!
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I guess if you are going to play three chords, play them well and play them loud.
HA HA HA. Status Quo anyone.
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The absolute best band of all time, without question, the hands down, no contest winner... The Doors.
Followed by (from various genres and order may be debatable) based on overal musical talent, not necessarily favorite bands, but I do like all of these:
2. X (when Ray Manzarek produced them)
3. Bow Wow Wow
4. Bauhaus
5. Love and Rockets
6. Blondie
7. Jethro Tull
8. Oingo Boingo
9. Yello
10. Agent Orange
I have to be honest and not include some of my favorite punk bands as best ever bands, great stuff but not fully rounded out talent. Even the Ramones (as awesome as they were) were three chord wonders, not complete musicians.
I debated on adding Boston to the list, but when you make three identical albums, that kinda eliminates you from a best ever list (should have made one album and called it a day).
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You forgot Fugazi. Agent Orange ruled. Zebrahead, Motorhead, Stones circa 72-73, UFO lights Out, AC/DC with Bonn Scott, anything live from the the Who, Black Sabbath, Leslie West, oh...and Barbara Streisand NOT!!!
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'nuff said
Um ... Yes, 'nuff said.
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You guys have covered my favs, so I'll add Molly Hatchet to the list.
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I'll put them at #2 after Zeppelin of course. After all, the greatest song in the world is...
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Ah yes, Fugazi! Minor Threat reincarnated. Awesome bands, but not the absolute best of all time. However, my punk list would read a little bit tlike this (atleast right now anyway):
D.R.I.
Circle Jerks
Minor Threat
Fear
Anti-Nowhere League
Angry Samonans
MDC
The Vandals
The Dead Milkmen
Adrenolin O.D.
The Dammed
Buzzcocks
7 Seconds
And a few more...
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Soren, You misdirected Bahstard("Forumla51"reference)
Led Zepplin was great. but where are they now? I also love the ZEP, but there is nothing in recent years to support their stance as a super band.
C'Mon, folks - can you really name a group that has produced as much as AC/DC has in the last 25 years?
BTW - Moving Pictures was one of my faves as well...
Gotta agree with bigbill again. 25 years of music is great, and I rock out to ACDC EVERY time I hear them on the radio, but thats it, they rock, nothing else. Zeppelin did a LOT and ANY interview you hear with ANY rock band since the early 70s talks about them as an influence.
As to where are they now, well... They all still play, nust not together. Check out Page and Plant Unledded sometime.
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On that note, a "rock" band that for me are musically brilliant, Toto are one of my favorites. Ive often heard them refered to as "the musicians band". Saw them in London back in the 80's and the audiance was a whos who of the London music sene. Made fore a very strange atmosphere.
It is amazing how some of the most musicly talented bands are not some of the most popular bands. Logic would say otherwise, but in reality it seems to be the opposite. Most of the most popular stuff out there is the most simple music (unfortunately it is them promoted as great music)
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Undoubtably THE BAND Long live Richard Manual and Rick Danko. 
The Band is great!! The Last Waltz, with all the horns too!! Oh man, awesome stuff.
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Led Zepplin was one of the most musicly talented bands of all time. They could do anything and do it well.
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For classic rock
I would have to go with Skynyrd and the Allmans.
And for current odd ball band I would have to go with
Drive by Truckers
Agreed with the Almans! Amazing musicians.
Saw the Truckers open for the Black Crowes (AWESOME crowes concert by the way) and they sucked. Reminded me too much of Guster which I was forces to go see in college cause the girl I dated wanted to. She was hot, they sucked. It's like paint by numbers... Song 4, form C, go. Ok, next. BORING!
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Stewart, gotta WAY disagree with ya' on that zeppelin statement. They are definitely overplayed but I certainly don't think overrated.
I think you are right. But I actually think Zepp is under-appreciated by the average listener. If you are a blues fan, it is just amazing what you can hear come thru Zepp. Their musicality was lost with your average Joe I think...
Personally I think Pink Floyd is way overrated...
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Of all the above: Queen and Chicago are my favorites."We will, we will, ROCK YOU!!!"...
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Soren, I think you and I are on the same page about the musical talent portion here. Zepp was interesting cause some people criticize Page for not playing that well. Technically his playing wasn't that reproducible. Like he didn't always play all the licks spot on every time. But hey, who says you have to?!? Problem is, most concert goers want to hear THE song THE SAME way it is on the album. You'll never hear that at a blues show... And thats why they didn't do it the same every time. Personally I love alternate takes on songs. One reason why I'll watch any "unplugged" concert, even bands I don't normally like. Puts their music in perspective, ya know?
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Chicago is a GREAT band! Their first album is amazing.
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I am a Pink Floyd nut but i think you have to be in a certain mood to enjoy there unique style.... Funny story though. Six years ago my family and i were driving through Salisbury and my youngest who was about 10, was sick in the car. My good lady cleaned him up whilst i rushed to buy him a new shirt from the shop. On the way back i ran past a music shop with a bargin bucket of CD's outside. I noticed a Back in Black CD which i quickly purchased, i couldn't resist it as it was about 15 years since i last heard it. Our kids were stunned as they both witnessed there parents head banging in the front of the car re-living there youth.....Both of my lads now love AC/DC. Bon Scott, what a legand. 
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NOT THE BEST EVER, IN FACT I DONT LIKE THEM ALL THAT MUCH, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE NOTED....
DRAGONFORCE!!!
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Soren, I think you and I are on the same page about the musical talent portion here. Zepp was interesting cause some people criticize Page for not playing that well. Technically his playing wasn't that reproducible. Like he didn't always play all the licks spot on every time. But hey, who says you have to?!? Problem is, most concert goers want to hear THE song THE SAME way it is on the album. You'll never hear that at a blues show... And thats why they didn't do it the same every time. Personally I love alternate takes on songs. One reason why I'll watch any "unplugged" concert, even bands I don't normally like. Puts their music in perspective, ya know?
I agree.
I would add that the stuff Page wrote was amazing, if one looks through the whole repertoire (and not only the popular stuff).
I also think their live performances were tops (check out the Song Remains The Same movie) - well coordinated musicians too ... technically speaking.
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Drive by Truckers
I've seen DBT about six times live, and they do, indeed, rock.
The only rocking-er show I've been to was Danzig!
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Modern bands? I like Tesla , Blackfish ,the band that did peace pipe it's brother something I can't remember, Metalica etc..
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I love Several Species of Small Furry Animals Grooving with a Pict and most everything made since. Didn't like earlier Floyd like Atom Heart Mother.
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Nickelback
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(I have an ongoing feud with a couple co-workers about this band.)
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