OK, I admit that I don't know the difference between the pair.
Jim's risers are not working for me. I got a pair of (ape hangers?) the other day at a swap meet. ($5) They are probably 9" between the bars, 9 - 10 '' high depending on where you measure to and turn out, rather than down. Does that sound right. I know there has been plenty of talk about varying the handlebars but what is the main difference between the the two?

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