After experimenting with several de-baffled versions of stock pipes, I installed Epcos purchased from a member here. The performance difference at WOT is remarkable. Really moves after 4500 or 5000 RPM. They are a little louder on accelleration than -3 baffle stockers, but a little quieter idling and cruising. The packing material was in pieces, so there is only about 2/3 of each baffle wrapped.