I think for now the days are gone where H_D dealerships can get above MSRP for their bikes. With recent Harley sales not up to their own expectations, they can no longer add on mandantory overinflated accessories and still get people to buy. Just last month I was riding by the H-D store and I saw this bold day-glo sign painted on their front window announcing blowout prices on 2005 models. It was the kind of sign you'd see painted on the window at a Kia car dealer's showroom window. Really tacky and I was suprised to see it. Especially here in Tucson where there's only 1 Harley dealer with a reputation for selling new bikes at inflated prices. Times are changing, with Harley starting to feel the effects of the end of the baby boomer run that have netted them big profits over the last 10-15 years.