The entire thread was tooooo long for me to read, but I think I got the jist. My two cents.. ...There are jerks and good folks in any given interest circle. For the most part a little tongue in cheek rivalry is fun. For the ones who take it way to seriously; ignore those who say "your bike is crap, ride this brand". Just ride your bike and have fun. There's an old saying, "If they're not paying your bills or sleeping in your bed F*em." Remember you'll get judged as hard as those your judging. Go ride have fun. Ok, I'll get off my soap box.